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Old December 7th, 2010, 11:45 PM
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I wouldn't waste the effort with AT tires. The BFG MT's last forever and don't represent that much more noise or ride discomfort. More to the point, I often can't tell the difference when riding on BFG MT or ATs. Off road, the difference is noticeable, and AT's on a rover just don't seem right.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 11:47 PM
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I did not have a good experience with the SSR on the FJ on ice and snow, awesome otherwise. ( replaced those with Mickey's and made a big difference.

I have 255/85 on Shrek , but I run spacers so I can't speak for rubbing.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 07:51 AM
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also if looking for a cheaper alternative, in my search I found that Dean tires (owned by Cooper) makes a 255/85R16 as well. I don't know a whole lot about them, just figured I'd share.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:11 AM
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good eye Doug- not a scratch here after one little slip:
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:12 AM
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Dean/Cooper and many of the other rebranded names make a decent tire at lower prices. I have run a Trailcutter R/T in 255-85 and was very impressed actually. They are currently on my plow truck in a 265.

www.nebraskatire.com can get some impressive deals if you call them and tell them what you're looking for. The website doesn't show nearly as much as they can get or have right there.

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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:42 AM
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I certainly like the look and capability of the BFG MT and the SSL but truth be told, I'm a bit of a poser so far with my truck. It has been my daily driver, but hasn't seen much off road use yet. If I felt like the BFG performed halfway decent in the snow and ice then I might get them because it would be a much more capable tire, and much more badd ass of course.

I read this morning about someone who siped the center lugs on his BFG MTs and said that the winter performance was greatly increased. Does this compromise the tire for offroad use though?
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:53 AM
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If you really don't offroad much then just get the Cooper S/T - you will be impressed when you do offroad as they are a great compromise tire. Snow they will do very well and ice they are about as good as any tire and better than some.

If you're really worried about ice and snow and want a good AT tire and can step down to a 265-75 then there are a few tires I'd HIGHLY recommend. I typically have ZERO good to say about Goodyear tires however the Wrangler Silent Armor is a GREAT tire, really simply amazing on ice and snow, very decent in mud, excellent on rock and lasts a long time. For a typical AT tire they really do shine. Every other GY tire.... not so much.

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[QUOTE=Roving Beetle;254387]If you really don't offroad much then just get the Cooper S/T - you will be impressed when you do offroad as they are a great compromise tire. Snow they will do very well and ice they are about as good as any tire and better than some. [QUOTE]

x2, that just about sums it up perfectly
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Jeff- as you have seen tyres are a subject where the crowd will have some very diverse opinions.
If snow and ice are your concern I think you would be pleased with M/t's but thats my preference.
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my old 110 double cab pulling a triple axle trailer with a 110 on in Alton, Hampshire in what later turned into the storm of the decade for Central Southern England last December. The tyres were well worn Colway Mud terrains.
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My 255/85/16 BFG MTs on wolf rims rub a bit on the front of the rear wheel well sometimes. The front tires rub when I steer to full lock, if that happens I just back off the tiller a bit.
Locks adjusted for Disco wheels ?
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A couple of old pictures since all threads are worthless without...@ least Dale gets it.
Alright, now we're talking! Snow porn is really what I was after by starting this thread. Ha.

I do see that everyone has different opinions about tyres, or tires.

Anything I get will be better than the old cracking 7.5/16s that are not worthy of pictures. We had a pretty crazy winter last year and there is not much infrastructure here to salt or sand the roads reliably since big snows are not very regular. I just don't want to slide around on the roads and make defenders look bad!
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Ben Gott of Keith Gott Land Rovers personal toy as of last December. Galv Chassis V8 90 on 40's-had to see it to believe it.
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WTF?? That thing looks like a toy!! Seriously is that not a photo-shop of a radio control truck? LOL.

Wow.
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WTF?? That thing looks like a toy!! Seriously is that not a photo-shop of a radio control truck? LOL.

Wow.
Nope but the tires are so huge it looks that way. If you look closely you can tell the 130's headlights are lighting it up (this was around 3:30 in the afternoon) I forget how much lift Ben said it had. I think it was 5 inches of suspension and 3 inches of body. He was waiting for the snow to get considerably deeper to head home.
He drives one of the big huge all wheel drive support trucks in the Dakar Rally each year- he likes big rubber.
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Ben's perspective is definately skewed- in a good way

You ask above about siping the middle tread in a M/T and effects offroad. It will help considerably. Most of us did so with the KM1s and it had amazing results- think each sipe opens when the tire rotates and contacts the surface and bites at each sipe. If you get next to a tire at slow- crawl- speed and watch in a tacky surface situation, you will see it at work. Did it just before Moab one trip, and it was awesome...
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Be sure and post pics up when you decide. My 235/85 BFG ATs have been great in the snow, but are wearing out. I would like to go to a 255/85 as well, but don't want MTs.
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I will post pics asap. I ordered 255/85 BFG MTs. Should be here mid week.
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I like SSRs in the snow.
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Kevin and Dale - sweet pics! Seems like rigs with SSR's will be in an action shot more than not :D
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