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I was thinking E30 M3
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I'd be happy with the current jag/LR v6 or v8 gas or diesel engines
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I have a 2010 Jetta tdi, great motor...
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VW/Audi tdi
I have a 2010 Jetta tdi, great motor...
The 98-03 ALH TDI motor is considered the best overall that was available here easy to tune and very high mpg (my best is 56), just enough computers to make it easy to tune, not too many that you have too many sensors and emissions crap.
The common rail motor is nice but the emissions and computer crap has killed some of the fuel economy, there is a solid 3-4mpg difference between the two (have a 99.5 5m stage 3 tune and '11 6m stock at home).
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Old October 1st, 2012, 10:23 PM
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The 98-03 ALH TDI motor is considered the best overall that was available here easy to tune and very high mpg (my best is 56), just enough computers to make it easy to tune, not too many that you have too many sensors and emissions crap.
The common rail motor is nice but the emissions and computer crap has killed some of the fuel economy, there is a solid 3-4mpg difference between the two (have a 99.5 5m stage 3 tune and '11 6m stock at home).
I get upper 40's in my tdi. I just like the motor. It pulls like a fraight train. Fairly quiet yet still get the turbo whine.
Since it's legally avaible in the USA, EPA/emissions wouldn't be a problem...
Hmm, maybe I need to design and machine some adapter plates to the R380...
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Talk to Doug, RovingBeetle he's kicking around the idea as well.
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Isuzu 6.6 e.g. Duramax, allison, lt230.
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You'll need a really big shoe horn for this one!
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 12:51 AM
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VW/Audi tdi
I have a 2010 Jetta tdi, great motor...
I agree this is a great engine....but it is NOT set up for a 4WD vehicle with big axles and a transfer case! Lets be realistic here, it was designed for a front wheel drive car!

Quick example, a VW TDI is a 2.0L engine.... A Sprinter van made by Mercedes has a 2.5L TDI! Not much differnce in displacement right.....the main difference would be the crankcase and the crankshaft is going be much larger than the VW's!
You would tear up that VW so quick that you would not even get a return on your investment!

And please; Motor is electric.........Engine is internal combustion!
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I agree this is a great engine....but it is NOT set up for a 4WD vehicle with big axles and a transfer case! Lets be realistic here, it was designed for a front wheel drive car!

Quick example, a VW TDI is a 2.0L engine.... A Sprinter van made by Mercedes has a 2.5L TDI! Not much differnce in displacement right.....the main difference would be the crankcase and the crankshaft is going be much larger than the VW's!
You would tear up that VW so quick that you would not even get a return on your investment!

And please; Motor is electric.........Engine is internal combustion!
That motor is used in VW's Pickup Truck the Amarok, thats besides the fact that the mid 90's tdi was thrown in a 4runner, and a handful other transplants into 4x4's with no problems. They are very tough motors, too much electrics for a series.
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Never seen a Wankel in a Rover.

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I've seen a few wanker's in Rovers.


oh wait you said wankel
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Everyone knows the ideal off road motor is a long stroke inline 6. Since there aren't any good lightweight engines like that then you're stuck with a diesel that can make lots of down-low HP and torque. Trouble is, that diesels that make big horsepower are giant cast iron monsters. Can't have a heavy engine or the front gets all squirrily.
If only they made an aluminum block version of the Chevy 292, or the Ford 300...Those would be great for a petrol engine.
Diesel, hmmm. I think the TDV6 is probably the best solution, but it's all 'lectronical. If only it were not.
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probably for a reason.

Max hp at 9000 rpm

Max tq of 4 ftlbs lol
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I always liked having room in the engine bay to actually work on things. I used to just flip the hood open and crawl into the bay with the little inline-4 that was in my YJ. A lot less bloody knuckles and cursing.
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I'd love to make a Subaru boxer motor work. Small, well-balanced, reliable, and designed for 4WD. In turbo/STI form it's a superstar and sounds great, too. (And one of the flat-6s might also be a good choice.)

I bought a 2008 STI new and had it for about 2 1/2 years, and I miss the motor. Though it was a magnet for teen rice-racer types and I'm more than twice that age, it was a blast.

If I could somewhat easily find an R380 adapter or somwhow reinforce/adapt the entire STI drivetrain, I'd be all over it.

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probably for a reason.

Max hp at 9000 rpm

Max tq of 4 ftlbs lol
And the fact that they go through oil faster than a land rover can leak it.
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I'd love to make a Subaru boxer motor work. Small, well-balanced, reliable, and designed for 4WD. In turbo/STI form it's a superstar and sounds great, too. (And one of the flat-6s might also be a good choice.)

I bought a 2008 STI new and had it for about 2 1/2 years, and I miss the motor. Though it was a magnet for teen rice-racer types and I'm more than twice that age, it was a blast.

If I could somewhat easily find an R380 adapter or somwhow reinforce/adapt the entire STI drivetrain, I'd be all over it.

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I own an STi and I love it. I can't get enough of the sound. True it does attract some ricer kids but at least the sound sets it apart. I've thought about figuring a way to drop one in a rover, but the adapter to a non-subaru tranny would need to be custom. The 6 speeds hold up to around 4-500 whp and wouldn't need much re-inforcing for a rover, but you would need a long wheelbase to divorce mount a lt-230 to it.
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Does anyone have any first hand experience with the pursuit 4.6 and interceptor 5.2 that ECR talks about? The names may be more for marketing but a 5.2 liter sounds interesting.
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Does anyone have any first hand experience with the pursuit 4.6 and interceptor 5.2 that ECR talks about? The names may be more for marketing but a 5.2 liter sounds interesting.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/RoverV8.html
At first I thought that was going to be a 4.6 out of a police crown Vic. The modular fords are reliable as all hell and decet power. The 2v's have great low end tq. And would actually be a good and cheap swap. No idea about figment. They are wide as hell but if mounted high enough it should fit


However with their coil on packs I don't think they would be great for something that might get very wet with off tossing


My vote is any diesel that's simple as can be. 4bt or 200/300tdi
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