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Old December 23rd, 2011, 05:48 PM
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Question What do you guys think about this 110?

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I think it says it has a Td5, and looks like an R380 to me. Compared to a puma, what do you guys think about this one? Personally I think it looks pretty cool with the wrap on the side. Funny how in the other pics you don't see the wrap.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 05:55 PM
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its a td5 euro spec with a wrap on a new galv chassis with a 25 yr old vin stamped on the chassis. if you buy it, then you'll be getting a vehicle from the same supplier as overfinch usa. and you know what happened to their vehicles!
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:06 PM
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Yah I know, I thought about what you told me when I saw the manufacturer, just wondering what you think of the drivetrain? Compared to a puma drivetrain. I would imagine this dosen't shift as smooth as the Ford 5 speed on the puma.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:08 PM
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Td5s drive great. You can tune them easily. Check out td5alive.com
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:19 PM
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So the TD5 can be easily converted to zf auto tranny? It's really the conversion console that I'm worried about. Curious how to make it look stock.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:30 PM
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Draaronr just did the auto conversion.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Ashcroft- they sell the conversion for the puma and the td5. Looks the same. Did you find a td5 on your street?
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:47 PM
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Awesome if you want a douche-mobile. Come on, Neil, that thing is ridiculous. You should be buying a Navigator. We'll help you add the cage and LR badge.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 06:55 PM
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It is sad. A true pimp wouldn't touch a td5. It is so 2006! Get with the times man!
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Can you guys help me biuld this?
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Ashcroft- they sell the conversion for the puma and the td5. Looks the same. Did you find a td5 on your street?
I haven't found any 110's locally....yet.
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So you are going to import one? You refuse to get one out of state so you are going out of country?
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 07:03 PM
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I'm just curious what you guys thought about that one. I didn't say I wanted to get one out of the country. I still want to buy one locally.
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Now I'm confused.
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Well it is a ghettosled. The pics are of multiple trucks. A puma is in there in one pic.
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So the TD5 can be easily converted to zf auto tranny? It's really the conversion console that I'm worried about. Curious how to make it look stock.
Td5 automatic conversion:
http://eastcoastrover.com/312.html

A good bit slower than it was as a 5 speed.

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I would imagine this dosen't shift as smooth as the Ford 5 speed on the puma.
Pumas have a 6 speed Getrag unit.
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First off, I just returned for four hours of christmas shopping followed by three hours of cocktails, so maybe this will come off sounding a bit offensive or "punchy"...

I just had lengthy conversation with yet another guy who just unloaded yet another UK fright pig after he was promised a "restoration" from a UK exported/restorer. (for those that remember the nice-looking white 110 on eBay a few months ago from Plymouth, MA). I never saw the truck in person, but the previous owner's story was an all too common story.

GlobalLandRovers and RiverMike - I have never seen your work, in person, so I'm not painting you with this brush......

Anyone considering buying any type of "restored", "refurbished" "refreshed" or whatever the heck they're calling them in the UK should run for the door like a scalded monkey. Simply put, it is not worth the bullshit, hassle (and in the case of this BLR pimp-mobile - not worth the risk). You will be dissappointed. The standard of what is considered a "restoration" in the UK is slightly different than what we consider a "restoration".

Do yourself a huge favor. If you want a "new" 110, Puma or whatever, go buy a beat-down NAS 110 and pay the proper money to have ECR restore it stateside. Yes, you'll be in for six figures entry-level, but you're going to be in for at least $60-$75,000USD for one of these pimped-out BLR "restorations" and if you think that you're slick because you saved yourself $25k, think again. Trust me, you'll be using that $25,000 to pay ECR or whomever to fix BLR's shit work anyway.

Let's not even talk about the potential legal and customs pitfalls with BLR's truck.

I'm not plugging ECR specifically. They are awesome for sure, but if you can't spend the coin on ECR, there are other shops stateside that do nice work as well.

There are enough threads on this and other boards talking about the risks and legality of importing Tdci trucks etc. That's not my point here. My point is that anyone considering spending that kind of money for a truck that is purported to be "restored" should definately think twice if the restorer is UK-based. You need to go look at their shop and physically see their work. Any "savings" that you think you're realizing will quickly evaporate when you start actually doing the math.

I'm not saying that nobody should buy a 110 from the UK, just beware of the "restored" ones and don't be victimized. There are many ways to get what you want (new-spec 110), but they all end up costing relatively the same money. I don't know of any shortcuts.

If it were easy to go in and write a $60,000, $70,000 or whatever check for a 2011 Defender 110, then it wouldn't bee as cool to have one now would it? You're going to have to spend more money to get what you want and BLR is NOT the place to start.
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Yah I know, I thought about what you told me when I saw the manufacturer, just wondering what you think of the drivetrain? Compared to a puma drivetrain. I would imagine this dosen't shift as smooth as the Ford 5 speed on the puma.

Neil, I know a chap in rancho santa fe, who may sell his LHD CA title TD5 manual, it has a CA issued Chassis number and is a 2001 truck I believe, it Epsom Green, I will try and find his details.
Merry XMas!
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