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Old September 14th, 2016, 10:21 AM
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When you say all of the engines are different, do you mean how the compressor is mounted to the different engines? To me, there are only a couple of main parts to the engine side of things (other than the ancillary stuff), the compressor and the condenser . All of the ancillary engine stuff should be interchangeable. I have an excel sheet that they sent me that shows what is included in the kit, but it is in Italian and I can't figure out if it says anywhere which compressor bracket is included.

Please post when you order. I just want to keep track of how many we have without calling him a bunch.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 11:02 AM
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The type of compressor and its type of pulley, the compressor mounts, the belt tensioning system, hose length, location and mounts for the dryer and condenser. Basically everything would be different. Most of it can be worked around, but there is no point buying a $1000 kit if it needs to all be modified. You might as well just buy or built the right parts for less.

200TDI, 300TDI, TD5, V8, Puma (2.2 and 2.4). All completely different from each other.

In any case, all that people want to know is which engine the kit being sold is designed for.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 11:20 AM
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I emailed him. FYI, I will be MIA from Fri-Mon due to a fishing / back country trip in Idaho. So, you might not hear anything until next week.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 12:37 PM
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1. Condenser / under hood kit that includes the hoses $ 999.75 PN 263BL90C
2. Interior kit for LHD TDI 2.5 $ 1081.11 PN 621BL15100EB (300 Tdi)
3. Interior kit for RHD TDI 2.5 $ 981.20 PN 621BL18800EB (300 Tdi)
Based on the spreadsheet on Dropbox, I believe these descriptions may be incorrect. It's appears that all of these part numbers are LHD.

The 623blc90 appears to be the LHD interior parts for pre-puma defenders. It lists the evaporator.

The 621bl151xxxx appears to be 300tdi specific stuff. It lists compressor and condenser

The 621bl188xxx seems to be td5 specific stuff.

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Old September 14th, 2016, 01:02 PM
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Email sent. Getting the ball rolling!
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Old September 14th, 2016, 01:13 PM
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Based on the spreadsheet on Dropbox, I believe these descriptions may be incorrect. It's appears that all of these part numbers are LHD.

The 623blc90 appears to be the LHD interior parts for pre-puma defenders. It lists the evaporator.

The 621bl151xxxx appears to be 300tdi specific stuff. It lists compressor and condenser

The 621bl188xxx seems to be td5 specific stuff.

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Looks that way to me as well. No RHD interior kits shown. TD5 engine, 300TDI engine and LHD interior kits. The numbers match the installation documents as well.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 01:35 PM
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Very Frustrating, but I think you guys are right. Ugh. I'm sick of this A/C stuff even before I bought it. I swear I saw something from them at one point showing a RHD interior unit. I'll check when he gets back to me.. I need a vaca...
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Old September 21st, 2016, 09:29 AM
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From Webasto yesterday:

Hi Steve

Here is clarification on the kits, I have updated the description Please let me know if this is clear

621BL15100EB – AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 2.5 TDI left hand drive This kit comprises of compressor, condenser, hoses, and engine compartment related content

621BL18800EB – AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 2.5 TD5 left hand drive This kit comprises of compressor, condenser, hoses, and engine compartment related content

623BL90C – AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 90 LHD This kit contains the parts for the interior such as evaporator, controller, trim kit, etc

None of these kits are suitable for a RHD vehicle
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Old September 21st, 2016, 09:42 AM
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From Webasto yesterday:

Hi Steve

Here is clarification on the kits, I have updated the description Please let me know if this is clear

621BL15100EB AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 2.5 TDI left hand drive This kit comprises of compressor, condenser, hoses, and engine compartment related content

621BL18800EB AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 2.5 TD5 left hand drive This kit comprises of compressor, condenser, hoses, and engine compartment related content

623BL90C AC-Kit Land Rover Defender 90 LHD This kit contains the parts for the interior such as evaporator, controller, trim kit, etc

None of these kits are suitable for a RHD vehicle
ANNNNND I'm out. Oh well.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 10:03 AM
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If no RHD kit, please remove me from the "list"
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Old September 21st, 2016, 11:23 AM
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If no RHD kit, please remove me from the "list"
Same here. Not interested in Lhd. Thanks for all the work on this, just the same.

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The RHD stuff should be 623BL91B for part of the kit, if it's still available. I'm still looking for the other part number.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 11:06 AM
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Correct. I believe that is the number for the underhood stuff on a RHD. I received a followup email this AM from Matt and they do not currently make a RHD evaporator, which is kind of weird considering they make the RHD under hood stuff. So far, 5 kits are ordered. I will be placing my order tomorrow and I believe he wants to send this first batch out for manufacture. I think there will be more, but if anyone else wants in on the first batch, email him...
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Old September 30th, 2016, 01:02 PM
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Correct. I believe that is the number for the underhood stuff on a RHD. I received a followup email this AM from Matt and they do not currently make a RHD evaporator, which is kind of weird considering they make the RHD under hood stuff. So far, 5 kits are ordered. I will be placing my order tomorrow and I believe he wants to send this first batch out for manufacture. I think there will be more, but if anyone else wants in on the first batch, email him...
I hope he has my name on that list. I emailed and he replied but never took payment.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:22 PM
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Called Matt. He will get the order put in next week and get the lead time. Sounds like things are all good. He said he won't charge until the order starts production. Then, he'll contact you for pmt.
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Awesome! Thank you for the follow up and leading the charge

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Old October 1st, 2016, 08:53 AM
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I tried. I really did. I just can't find the posting that states what a complete NAS (3.9 V8) LHD kit would run... engine side and passenger side. Can anyone point me to that figure?
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Old October 1st, 2016, 09:42 AM
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I tried. I really did. I just can't find the posting that states what a complete NAS (3.9 V8) LHD kit would run... engine side and passenger side. Can anyone point me to that figure?
There is no complete V8 engine kit being sold.

There are three products.

1) LHD interior kit (623BL90C)

2) 300TDI engine kit (621BL15100EB)

3) TD5 engine kit (621BL18800EB)
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Old October 1st, 2016, 09:46 AM
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Well, that explains it!

I'll go back through and reread to figure out if it's even an option for a V8...
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Old October 1st, 2016, 10:23 AM
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I'd suggest just the Interior kit for the V8 a good mechanic should be able to source universal parts for the engine.

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