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Old August 2nd, 2016, 04:02 PM
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I verified that the hoses come with the underhood kit and not the evaporator. So, if you are buying just the interior kit / evaporator, you will need to have hoses made, which I believe is what Robert said.
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Old August 4th, 2016, 09:32 PM
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So far we have seven people verbally committed to these units. I got the rovers north catalog and saw their aircon advertisement. Although $2000 was more than we expected, it is still much less than the alternative. Here is a pic in case some of you are sitting on the fence... I'm not sure what the minimum order is with webasto...

Correction, the picture is of the RN / cool air Logan setup. I was showing the pic more from the standpoint of how much more expensive it is compared to the webasto unit.

Honestly, if people like how the coolairlogan unit looks better, we can contact them for a group buy.
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Old August 4th, 2016, 11:23 PM
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I just had a Coolair Logan system installed in my 200 TDI. The truck is being shipped from the UK next week so I have not yet had a chance to inspect the install yet. Here are a few photos that I posted on my build thread earlier today.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 05:26 AM
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according to this article a cool air logan system is approx $2200 not including shipping. Id be curious what kind of discount they might offer for a group buy.

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Old August 5th, 2016, 06:49 AM
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I will take 3 interior LHD units.

These will go into V8's so will make my own engine side stuff or wait for Robert to make a kit. The only question I have is making sure we can get the correct fitting for the firewall connection. I remember that the fittings for the older units I had were not readily found. At least not here in the Boone docks.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 08:15 AM
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I will take 3 interior LHD units.

These will go into V8's so will make my own engine side stuff or wait for Robert to make a kit. The only question I have is making sure we can get the correct fitting for the firewall connection. I remember that the fittings for the older units I had were not readily found. At least not here in the Boone docks.
We have a new Evaporator assembly for a 1997 NAS D90 that I can take to the local hose shop and see if they have or can get the fittings.
The engine mounting brackets for the 200TDI and 3.5 V8 should not be a problem to make available, although they will need to be prototyped and tested before making a production run.

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I just had a Coolair Logan system installed in my 200 TDI. The truck is being shipped from the UK next week so I have not yet had a chance to inspect the install yet. Here are a few photos that I posted on my build thread earlier today.
The Elite kits had 2 flaws that the Diavia units don't have.
1.) the evaporator is not in a separate surround, so it is difficult to seal it off to have the condesation drain through the drain tube.
If not properly sealed they leak water on the passengers floor which can cause rust issues.
2.) the RHD and LHD contain the same aluminum "hard lines" that piece together via poorly seated unions that easily form a freon leak.
The same hard lines mean different sections are standard to both hand drives, while other sections adapt the under dash kit for RHD or LHD.
End result is a bunch of unions that potentially leak enough to need a charge annually or more often (when not seated properly).
The refrigerent on the high side is generally well over 200 PSI.

Do not know if this is true of the Coolair Logan system.
Can you get some expanded pictures of the plumbing under the hood?
The pictures in post 103 look good.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 11:56 AM
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Robert, Really looking at the connection at the firewall. If you do an aftermarket condenser and compressor those should use regular fittings I am thinking. The firewall is my question....
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Old August 5th, 2016, 12:07 PM
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I have the input / output measurements for the condenser. I'm not sure if that helps you or not b/c I know you are looking for the evaporator... 5/8 18 unf (input) 2A 3/4 16 unf 2A (out)
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Old August 5th, 2016, 12:09 PM
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Robert, Really looking at the connection at the firewall. If you do an aftermarket condenser and compressor those should use regular fittings I am thinking. The firewall is my question....
You referring to the inlet and outlet pipe fittings at the evaporator of the Diavia unit?
If so I can verify that our local shop has or can get the correct fittings for making a custom hose based on the new 1997 NAS 90 unit I have that is not installed in a vehicle.
Can just bring it in and have the shop check the size.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 12:27 PM
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Thanks Guys. On the unit I have installed on a v8 now I used the old pipes but had them modified in length to work. I was just thinking of the kits in question and getting them to work once they come in.
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At least not here in the Boone docks.
Mike, I have a '97 interior unit over here in the Boondocks.
What kind of fittings do they have??


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there is always the frigidaire system...
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there is always the frigidaire system...
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This thread is a spin off of the Elite thread. As posted there-
The price will be the $1166 plus shipping ...
Please add me to the list:

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Did I miss the buy on this?
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Did I miss the buy on this?
I hope not, otherwise I did too as I've not ponied up an money. As far as I thought, it's just an interested list so far.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 02:10 PM
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Me too, haven't heard anything....
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Old August 29th, 2016, 04:47 PM
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Hey guys. I was giving it a few weeks to see how many people jump aboard. We don't have as many units as I originally was quoted for by webasto. Let me tally up the total units and see if webasto will still honor the pricing on less units.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 05:41 PM
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I did a quick count.. 37 units
11 RHD Diesel
12 LHD Diesel
4 RHD V8
10 LHD V8

Let me know if you want me to make a spreadsheet on who wanted what
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For you all with diesels there is going to be a problem. 200 and 300 a/c compressor mounting is completely different. Getting the parts is a pain. 200 uses a (rather easy to find and cheap) Sanden compressor with single v belt and has a (V8 style) tensioner that goes on a thingy that replaces the timing pump access port on the front cover. Be sure that your crank pulley has the air con pulley on it or you'll need to replace it with one that does. The bracket to mount the compressor is more or less unobtainable now so you may have to fabricate one. You can't order it from anyone but maybe a used parts place in the UK would have it. The 300 uses a Denso 4 groove polyvee belt compressor, a very weird arrangement. All 300s have the crank pulley drive already so there's no special air con version unlike the 200. The pump mounting bracket is available only from Land Rover at an astounding $500. That means either you find one from a breaker's in the UK or make one. The config of the Denso is unique to the Rover diesel, but I found that a very very similar unit was used on bazillions of 4Runners from the late 1990s so there are pumps out there pretty cheap. There is also a front cover mounted tensioner that is different from the 200 one and those are still available and not expensive. If anyone wants specifics of part numbers and other nerdy stuff like that PM me. So yes you can bolt a compressor to your diesel if you want air, but don't think it'll be easy or cheap.
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