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Old July 27th, 2016, 06:50 PM
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I'm in but waiting to hear details on the RHD V8.
That's at least two of us then!
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Old July 27th, 2016, 07:25 PM
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"2. What is this part number 6293BL90C and is it included in the above kits or is
it an additional expense. I have a feeling it is the blower / evaporator unit"

If my translation was correct? I believe that part is the controls. (like the NAS Trucks) It listed the "Evaporator with accessories" as a separate line item. Could be wrong so good to check.

The V8 stuff isn't that prevalent in Europe so I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't be available. Easy enough to convert the Tdi set up or Td5 for that matter for the V8.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 09:05 PM
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I finally got the installation manual for part number...
Checked out the installation manual (thanks Stancey) and these are not the Elite style, but very similar if not identical to the NAS 90 AC units with the evaporator encapsulated with the slim ductwork that bolts under the dash.

These units were originally developed for the Series III and later used on the Defender style vehicles with different hoses and compressor & engine mounts.
I like these units better than the Elite style that are currently available.
Think it is also possible to run a heater valve and plumb a coolant HE into the ductwork to add winter heat for those of us that need it.
Then for a quick defrost, both AC and heat could be run in the ductwork for cold weather defrosting.
This could be accomplished with switches and relays.
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Left Hand Drive NAS '95 V8. I'm in.
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That's at least two of us then!

That makes three of us
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Old July 28th, 2016, 06:49 AM
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Is there anyone with experience with a 1997 NAS D-90 AC who has also owned a 94 or 95 out there that can give us some feedback to how the 97 performed compared to the 94 - 95 setup?

The 97 is different from the 94-95 and from the literature Stancey sent we would be purchasing the 97 style.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 07:39 AM
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The factory 200 tdi and V8 use the same v belt compressor- ERR845 a Sanden SD-709

The factory compressor used on a the 300 tdi was the serpentine belt SD 7H15

Sanden made both of these compressors in both direct mount and ear mounts.
The 300 compressor-the SD 7H15 came in both V belt and serpentine belt clutch's.

Using that logic it would be as simple as purchasing a V belt clutch/pulley for a 300 kit to retro fit that kit on a 200 tdi.
This would assume the aftermarket kits will use the same compressors.

If not the 200 tdi and V8 used the Sanden SD 709


These are crazy expensive from rover but if you use the Sanden part number
New SD709 Sanden Style AC Compressor and Clutch U7402 | eBay

So the retro fit onto a 200 is easy.

For a v belt V8 truck you would also need the factory cast aluminum compressor mount.
these are err4521 fro the V belt trucks https://www.lrdirect.com/ERR4521-Bracket-Compressor/
These can be had from old classics or if you have a later engine
http://www.roversnorth.com/ProductDe...RR4513X&type=0
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Old July 28th, 2016, 07:43 AM
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Steven sent me the PDF's and inventory sheet last night so I can share a link to you all - Anyone interested can follow this link to my drop box folder set up for the A/C docs.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp9wggums...RHU1hYHba?dl=0

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The 97 is different from the 94-95 and from the literature Stancey sent we would be purchasing the 97 style.


On the short drives that I have done on the last few 97s that came in, I noticed that the blower seems much weaker than mine.
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So is the bolt pattern on the top of the timing case for the compressor bracket the same for 200 and 300? What about the adjuster mounting?
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:31 AM
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So is the bolt pattern on the top of the timing case for the compressor bracket the same for 200 and 300? What about the adjuster mounting?
I think the mounting pattern is the same. The tensioning systems are completely different. 200TDI uses V-belt and 300TDI uses serpentine. The 200TDI also has the Discovery and Defender setups which are completely different than each other. It is all available factory parts, though, except maybe the compressor mount, which is simple to fabricate.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:37 AM
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I think the mounting pattern is the same. The tensioning systems are completely different. 200TDI uses V-belt and 300TDI uses serpentine. The 200TDI also has the Discovery and Defender setups which are completely different than each other. It is all available factory parts, though, except maybe the compressor mount, which is simple to fabricate.
When I said tensioner, I didn't mean vbelt vs serp, I was thinking about the pulley that goes in that hole where the fuel pump bolts on. Is that bolt pattern different? Could the 300 parts bolt on and then we'd just have to find a suitable pulley?
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:40 AM
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I have the engine bits to add A/C to a 3.5 V8 LHD. I did a bunch of research on what I needed and bought them off a member. It is basically the front end off of a Range Rover Classic. I never installed them and since I will be doing the LS upgrade, I won't be needing them. I believe they are spoken for by a local member (Sam), but maybe we can catalog exactly what is needed as he installs them and set up a list of parts for everyone to go by.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:44 AM
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When I said tensioner, I didn't mean vbelt vs serp, I was thinking about the pulley that goes in that hole where the fuel pump bolts on. Is that bolt pattern different? Could the 300 parts bolt on and then we'd just have to find a suitable pulley?
No. The 300TDI timing cover and tensioning system is completely different than a 200TDI. There are no similarities. The 300TDI uses a common tensioner for everything and a single belt. The 200TDIs use multiple belts and different tensioners. The Discovery and Defender setups are also completely different.

edit: I see what you mean, The 300TDI AC does use a separate belt. I can't see how that would help. You would just buy the correct tensioner for the 200TDI.
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So is the bolt pattern on the top of the timing case for the compressor bracket the same for 200 and 300? What about the adjuster mounting?
The adjuster is the same as the v belt V8 truck part no 614718 http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.ph...200tdi_all_app
What is unique to the 200 is that the adjuster fastens to the front cover where the timing belt inspection plate goes. You simply remove the three bolts holding that cover on and bolt this cast aluminum mount on.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:52 AM
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Cool, at least that part is still available it looks like.

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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:56 AM
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See a photo here of the Defender 200TDI setup. http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...c-31409-2.html
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Old July 28th, 2016, 09:58 AM
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I see. That is quite different from the defender version. Thanks!
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Steven sent me the PDF's and inventory sheet last night so I can share a link to you all - Anyone interested can follow this link to my drop box folder set up for the A/C docs.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zp9wggums...RHU1hYHba?dl=0

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Thanks for sharing that. This would also come in very handy for someone installing a used 94 Diavia kit.
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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:59 AM
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