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Old January 10th, 2015, 03:20 PM
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Wanted (to borrow) Riv-Nut tool in NOVA

Longshot - I am trying to install some rivnuts and am having no luck using the bolt method. Does anyone have the proper tool?

I hate shelling out the cash for just three rivnuts.

I can pick up in NOVA / DC and I might be running an errand in Deale, MD on Sunday.

Can anyone hook a brudda up?
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Old January 10th, 2015, 03:21 PM
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I have one if you dont mind driving to arlington
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Old January 10th, 2015, 04:16 PM
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We have an extra one if needed but in Florida

------ Follow up post added January 10th, 2015 04:19 PM ------

Actually you don't need the tool.

Use the next size larger nut and 2 fender like washers. Sandwich the nut between the washers.

Hold the larger nut with a wrench and turn the correct bolt with a fast moving implement such as a battery impact.

Perfect installation every time. We no longer use the tool for larger Riv nuts
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Old January 10th, 2015, 05:44 PM
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Another slick trick is to drill the threads out of a nut that corresponds to the rivnut. That way, you don't get the jiggle of the next size up nut. Works splendidly.
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Old January 10th, 2015, 09:40 PM
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I sent a text to Lord Helmet - waiting on reply.

Does Pedro have a tool ( loaded question)?

I have a county fire committee meeting the same time as HH - so there is always a conflict.

(I have tried the bolt method - my riv nut keeps spinning. I will practice a few more times to see if I can get better. )
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Old January 11th, 2015, 06:31 AM
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I never used impacts... but a star washer (the kind with teeth on one side) butted up against the rivnut holds it still. The rivnut's aluminum, if I recall (it's been just about decades), so unless you go at it too hard, you don't mar the top lip of the rivnut.

So, try: bolt; drilled out nut; star washer; rivnut.

Thinking about it, the only thing to look for is to find a spanner that isn't wider at the mouth than your drilled out nut. Boy that sounds frisky! But, seriously, you don't want the spanner to get in the way so doubling up the drilled out nuts is an option.
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Old January 11th, 2015, 10:34 PM
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I played around with Lord Helmet's tool tonight. It is a little big and hard for me to get my hands around but once it got screwed in and pressure applied it really tightened my nuts up.

Tonight was just a test run on some sample materials. Tomorrow I will try on the actual bulkhead.
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Harbor Freight has a cheap one - I picked one up - Used it eight times and it hasn't broken yet.

http://www.harborfreight.com/45-piec...-kit-1210.html
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I played around with Lord Helmet's tool tonight. It is a little big and hard for me to get my hands around but once it got screwed in and pressure applied it really tightened my nuts up.

Tonight was just a test run on some sample materials. Tomorrow I will try on the actual bulkhead.


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Old January 11th, 2015, 11:51 PM
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David,

If your still in need I have a few of the install arbors

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On this topic, does anyone know the hole size to drive for 1/4 20 riv nuts? I plan to put 2 into my chassis and want to have the hole size right before galvy.
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Charles I believe mine are for metric hardware, but I'll check

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Old January 12th, 2015, 05:22 PM
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Metric isn't bad - 6mm and/or 8mm if metric please and I'll drill accordingly.

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I would insert the rivnuts and then galvy them. You can drill and tap the rivnuts of the zinc and the zinc will hold them in and prevent the rivnuts from rusting.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 05:34 PM
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Charles, this is what I've got

http://www.mscdirect.com/product/det...rItem=08411399

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Chip thats a bit large for this. I just need little bolts.

Ron, I was thinking aluminum rivnuts, but that would make sense. I'll see what I can find locally.

If any of you nova guys have 2 x steel rivnuts you can spare, in the 6-8mm or 1/4" size range, let me know.
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Chip thats a bit large for this. I just need little bolts. Ron, I was thinking aluminum rivnuts, but that would make sense. I'll see what I can find locally. If any of you nova guys have 2 x steel rivnuts you can spare, in the 6-8mm or 1/4" size range, let me know.
Aluminum rivnuts seem like a terrible idea to me. Steel is much stronger.
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It's just to hold down the little valence panel in front of the breakfast so no strength required. I agree corrosion could be an issue. I could weld a nut in too, but figured a rivnut would be fine.
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Charles - I have a bag of 100 nuts. I will have a few to spare. I also have the tool for the week. I am using a drill bit one size larger than 3/8 for my 1/4 inch rivnuts. I think it was 13/32 or 25/64. I have fire duty tues and weds nights but am close to the house if you want to pop up and borrow some.

Also - for the steel bulkhead - I opted for steel rivnuts. I was not sure what the long term prognosis of aluminum and steel together in that application. It would probably be fine but ....
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