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Old June 1st, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Wanna buy a Porsche...

I'm looking at expanding the herd and want to add a 911 to the mix. I have certain criteria and some questions so I thought I might start here for some guidance.

I want a convertible and in an ideal world it would go up and down on it's own. Is this an option for the 1980's cars? I am looking for cars in the 1970-1980 years. I can't spend a ton of money on it (I do have a D90 to sink money into). But I want something that could be a daily driver.

Are there any flags/areas to be extra careful of in looking at these cars? What is the best forum for Porsche?

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Old June 1st, 2009, 12:59 PM
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pelican parts has a good forum. pre 1974 cars are worth much more than the later bumper cars. If you don't mind the bumpers and want a cheapish driver, get an SC from 1978-1982ish. The least desirable (and cheapest) are the first bumper cars from 1974-1977. Up until 1976ish, they were not galvanized and the rust in early 911s makes rovers look easy to deal with.

Full convertibles could and have been retrofitted to many early cars. Factory convertible came out in the early 1980s. The targa top is easier to deal with and much more common.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:09 PM
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I have a 911. Best decision you could make (besides your D90).

I personally would stay away from the convertibles if price is an issue. They cost more to buy, and more to maintain. They also loose some of the structural values of a coupe, and weigh more. All hurting performance.

Take the top off the 90, and buy a 911 coupe!

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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:41 PM
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Thanks for the info.

The 911 is requested by my other half who won't ride in the D90...So since the real daily driver is a 530 xi this has to be a convertible or maybe a Targa. I prefer the Targa but I don't really get to vote in this matter This is for nice weather driving without the little one.
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 12:07 PM
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I have an 88 911. I love it. Make sure you do research. 87-89 are considered excellent cars engine & transmission wise. Earlier years had issues with head studs pulling out & cost thousands to repair. It is a great time to buy one. I see low mileage examples left & right on ebay for nice prices.

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Old June 2nd, 2009, 12:25 PM
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I keep leaning toward the 83-85 models for some reason, but that could be price driven.

I've found a few with rebuilt engines but I'm hesitant to trust that.

I've found two locally that have potential. One has 20,000 ish miles on it but it looks like 70k miles. The seller thinks it was originally imported from Germany and had the speedo converted to MPH and they didn't set the MPH to reflect the 15-20k it had before. Mechanically it seems to be solid. It is an 83 911SC.
The other option is higher miles and price, it is an 83 too.
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Avoid the 90-94. Watch out for the 99-2002.

Otherwise great cars.
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What is wrong with the 964s? (1990-94)
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So 911s before 86 have issues and you should watch out for 99-02 and avoid 90-94...
These sound like great cars...
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99 - 02 is ugly no offense
90 - 94 is awesome
I will take a 94 3.6 turbo or a 93 RS America any day.
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So 911s before 86 have issues and you should watch out for 99-02 and avoid 90-94...
These sound like great cars...
At least they don't leak oil all over the garage and catch fire like Defenders Maybe I should go back to Karmann Gia plan.
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What is wrong with the 90-94s?????

I have had great luck with my 1993 RS America for the last 16 or so years. The 80s 911s are great as well, But It is hard to imagine the I could be even happier with one from the 80s? I am more in love with my car now - then the day I bought back in August of 1992...........

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993s are my favorite model
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Sorry, I too love the body style and the interior of the 90-94. I should have said watch out for 90 or 91. I had a lot of service issues with the heads and have heard a lot of other people have also. I also know a Porsche machanic who is seeing quite a few 99 and 2000 models needing new engines(one of the reasons you can get one for 20k. I didn't mean any disrespect about the 964, I had one and I love the styling, the first two years had some problems and I learned that the hard way. The pre 1990's I have heard are bulletproof. I do however think the 993 is by far the best 911. Just my opinion!
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What is wrong with the 964s? (1990-94)
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I had 91 Turbo and 93 America Cup ( non USA Edition , you know the BS 1-40 painted on the door )
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Had a 96 coupe and it was one of my favorite cars I have ever owned or even driven. Hate that its gone...
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As Ron said, any 70's model will have rust issues, or you will be on the lookout. Pre74 is what I have but its a 2-3 season car. love it. Just drove it 4750 miles from LA/SFO across country to NY. Solid as a rock.
74-77 have reputedly engine issues, but by this stage most probably have had that sorted as you would be looking at hi mileage ones by now.
Saw on Pelican forum today, an asking of $12k for a 77 911 w/3.0 litre engine. Black. Looks nice. Probably get it for $10k.
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Seem to be an ok dealer as well.

SC's are reportedly bulletproof engines (3.0 litres and later 3.2 liters). Great cars. Prices in the teens.
964's go from teens to $20's .... handmade aircooled cars.. great build quality. Not knowing a lot about them, i have been advised as mentioned before, to stick with 92 onwards ... seems decision needs to be C2 or C4 ... if brake system maintained with Bosch Hammer tool, then C4 should be fine .... Hard to argue with 3.6liter fun .... Styling grows on you.
95-98 are 993's and last of aircooled. Mid $20's will get you a 95 (no OBDII problems) and upward for 96-96 (CEL light issues can be problematic).
996's are getting cheaper.
997's are too new to depreciate rapidly.

For below $15k I would look at SC's
for $20k I would try and find a decent 964 that didn't need overhaul.
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Be carefull with 996's from 1999 if you decide to go that new. Oil leak problems were common as where other various engine problems. Porsche replaced many an engine in 99' models, my previous 911 being one of them.
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Do you guys/gals know if Air conditioning is common on early 1980's 911 SC's?
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Pretty common on the SCs.
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