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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:08 PM
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Value: NAS 90 Defender versus 1988 90 Defender

I am currently looking at buying a Defender 90. I am looking at a 1994 NAS 90 and a 1988 90 (>25 years old and already titled in the US). The 1994 NAS and the 1988 have similar asking prices, but the 1988 model appears to be in a bit better shape. However, I understand the NAS model is more desirable to a US buyer. Thus, I am curious about the following:

1) Assuming all things being equal, what sort of premium (in price) should the NAS model bring compared to a late 80's model.

2) For a $30-35,000 price range, what kind of condition should I expect of the 1994 NAS model (80,000 miles). Should I expect almost mint, or is a bit of rust on doors, AC not working, and seals that need replacing on the front drive train be acceptable.

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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:21 PM
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I can't give you the answer to your first question but if you're paying anywhere close to $30,000-$35,000 for a RoW 90 you're getting robbed
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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:44 PM
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You really need to post some pictures. Just because I like pictures of Defenders.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:47 PM
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I can't give you the answer to your first question but if you're paying anywhere close to $30,000-$35,000 for a RoW 90 you're getting robbed
Gotcha. Thx.

FYI, supposedly the ROW 90 was a recent frame off restoration. But I haven't actually seen it, as not yet sure it is worth driving to a different state to see it.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:48 PM
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Gotcha. Thx. FYI, supposedly the ROW 90 was a recent frame off restoration. But I haven't actually seen it, as not yet sure it is worth driving to a different state to see it.
If it's a restoration, I could see it getting to $30,000 pretty easily, depending on what was done.

Is it LHD?
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Old May 15th, 2014, 05:51 PM
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Here is the 1988 ROW 90: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...0/1642552.html

Now I am not an expert in restoration, but I assume there are many different levels of restoration. Since I have seen other restorations that look much nicer (almost new) with much higher prices, I am assuming this is not a top of the line restoration - off course I could be wrong.

Looking for the ad for the 1994 - it was an ebay ad now expired. It was local so I was able to see it, however.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 06:12 PM
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also here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frame-off-re...p2054897.l4275
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Old May 15th, 2014, 06:18 PM
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The '88 is overpriced, IMHO. For that money I would expect a full interior (headliner, carpets, rear seats, seat belts) and a better engine (300Tdi, 4.2, 4.6 or even LS1). This rig is very clean but doesn't have that stuff.

How important is LHD vs. RHD?
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Old May 15th, 2014, 06:37 PM
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The '88 is overpriced, IMHO. For that money I would expect a full interior (headliner, carpets, rear seats, seat belts) and a better engine (300Tdi, 4.2, 4.6 or even LS1). This rig is very clean but doesn't have that stuff.
Seconded. If it was LHD with new engine, lock & folds, cage, etc., maybe it would be worth 30k. But not like this. I'm partial to NAS anyway, but I'd never buy this truck for that price.
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What about this 1994 NAS 90: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Land-Ro...vip=true&rt=nc

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Seconded. If it was LHD with new engine, lock & folds, cage, etc., maybe it would be worth 30k. But not like this. I'm partial to NAS anyway, but I'd never buy this truck for that price.
So I am curious: What is a normal price range for a 1988 such as this?
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It is hard to tell from that ad

------ Follow up post added May 15th, 2014 04:21 PM ------

It is hard to tell from that ad, not a ton of pictures, you have no idea of the condition inside and underneath. It is what someone is willing to pay, $35K for a 94 with that mileage doesn's seem too bad seeing as these prices seem to increase daily. It all depends on the condition.
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that price should at least get you a tdi...and not britpart seats
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I'm getting ready to sell mine in the next few weeks. 85 frame off NAS conversion LHD ST running Dual tanks the whole nine here are a couple pics asking 30k. LEDs have been swapped with hella's. About to take the lift off and put alloys on, thinking about converting to 3.9 auto. Anywho sorry to high jack, but feel this is a better deal for you, I might be bias. I can build it anyway some one wants!! 200tdi daily driver!
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The "value" in a ROW (or ExMoD for that matter) is that it dosen't cost $35K.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 09:51 PM
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NAS sets the market, ROW benefits from the premiums NAS gets. Choose your poison.
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Old May 15th, 2014, 09:57 PM
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That '88 for $33K?

What a joke.
I wouldnt pay 17K for it.
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So I am curious: What is a normal price range for a 1988 such as this?
Low 20's. Maybe mid-20's if a guy already has a decent donor engine & all the interior parts.

If it had a galvy chassis, interior and decent engine, maybe mid 20's but with the RHD I doubt it would go higher.

Remember, they are silly cheap in the UK. And soon the real Defenders will be importable.

Edit: Same clowns want $60k for a '74 911 with an SC engine. As Nomar stated, "What a joke."
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1) Assuming all things being equal
Here's your first problem. Impossible. 1994 (assuming we're taking about a soft top) has a "rare" padded cage that ROW will never have. It also has a title that ROW will never have.
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My advice/preference:
1) 90 = NAS
2) 110 = ROW

NAS 90s can be had cheap enough to find what you're looking for, whereas 110s I actually prefer the non-exocage look and price tag.
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