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Old February 6th, 2004, 12:49 AM
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Bill Burke has a new DVD out, "Getting Unstuck" lots of good information.

Anyone considering a winch or recovery gear should see it, or even if you already have the stuff.

Helps with HiLiftaphobia!
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Old February 6th, 2004, 11:29 AM
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Randy, where did you get it? My usual sources have not received them yet.

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Old February 6th, 2004, 11:41 AM
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Eric look here

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Old February 6th, 2004, 12:08 PM
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Dude, I got trained *by* Bill Burke, and I still don't like the HiLift.

Trust me, I've used them a lot, but there was just a point when I said enough was enough.

I'm sure the DVD is good though. Bill's teaching style is laid back but very thorough. Greg Hren (usually a still photographer), shot the video, so it should be decent to watch.
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Old February 6th, 2004, 12:27 PM
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I got hit by the handle of a High Lift so hard that it threw me off my feet about 7 feet and left me with a bruise across my chest that looked like highway 15. I am very gunshy around those things. I just don't know what other option there is when you need to lift a truck in a difficult spot.
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Old February 6th, 2004, 12:34 PM
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The hi lift has always scared me. It's a last resort tool for me.

The new unstuck is perfect for a current day update on the implements and tools we use, how to use them and how to get in the right mind-set for recovery.

Plus, some of our own brotherin are featured throughout the video.
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Old February 6th, 2004, 12:36 PM
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Uhhhh...bottle jack?

Yeah, that little POS LR bottle jack is all I carry (on and another one from Harbor Freight that's in my trailer).

I'm not sure I've ever seen a situation where the HiLift helped and wasn't a liability more than the original problem.

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I'm not trying to change everyone's mind, just voicing my opinion and experience.

LUCKILY I have not been hit by the handle. Yowch!
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Old February 6th, 2004, 01:01 PM
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I carry a High-lift not just for Jacking purposes or the ability to cause mass destruction. It is definitely a last resort and should be treated with respect as should any 4x4 tool. I am sure everyone has seen the winching accident they have been showing on TV when the guy gets his hand caught on the drum. It was an accident they do happen we live we learn, but we are not going to stop using are winches because of it.

But you do bring up a good point about the bottle jack. The last group trail ride I is was on we used it to change a flat out. When the owner pulled his out it did not work due to being stored on its side. I pulled mine out and it worked, but I had never even moved mine before. Maybe it should be at least looked at every time you throw some oil on the high-lift. Does anyone know the maintenance on them? Or if they break how to repair them.

Oh and Dave OUCH!
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Old February 6th, 2004, 01:52 PM
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Ok, bottlejack, but what about when it just won't work. I mean, 37's and small diffs my stock jack would barely even reach them. And what about when you are jammed on a rock, so you have to lift from the sill. That is real common, it seems the bottle jack would come up lacking quite a bit. I am guessing since I haven't used one on the trail for at least 7 years.
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Old February 6th, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Lube the hell out of the climbing pins. Most of the time the cause of the jack not work properly is that pins don't slide freely.

My guess is that Dave's (ouch) handle hit him because the pin was not secure in the hole and slipped out.

Dave- your lucky it didn't hit you in the teeth!
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Old February 6th, 2004, 04:56 PM
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Appropriate for today....

http://www.britishpacific.com/daily_special.html

Check out the pic with Kearney in it...
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Old February 6th, 2004, 06:20 PM
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Kearney has a Jeep? Or is he the one with the pony tail?
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Old February 6th, 2004, 06:24 PM
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Bill has the pony tail.
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Old February 6th, 2004, 06:30 PM
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The jeep was "borrowed".
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Old February 6th, 2004, 06:43 PM
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"borrowed"? Better to get someone else stuck than yourself...

Is that from the same school of thought that I use when on business travel: Q: What's the fastest car you ever drove? A: The last car I rented.
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Old February 7th, 2004, 07:26 PM
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-wife speaking-(cause I troll the forums more than hub) We saw a guy lose an eye and break his face with a High-lift in Maine a few years ago. It was terrible. I don't watch if Rich ever gets it out.
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Old February 7th, 2004, 08:47 PM
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Is that from the same school of thought that I use when on business travel: Q: What's the fastest car you ever drove? A: The last car I rented.
I like that logic!
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Old February 8th, 2004, 03:42 PM
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It seems to me that every time I find myself in "need" of a 4WD truck I would also need a HiLift to raise it.
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