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Old December 27th, 2015, 04:11 PM
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Only issue I've had with the Pilot/Nolden LED's is every now and then the lights flicker once when you hit the turn signal. Hasn't happened enough for me to really care. Other than that they have been a great upgrade.
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Old December 27th, 2015, 07:51 PM
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Purely subjective, as I added the Truck Lites to my 95 Classic, and the JW Speakers to the D90, the Speakers are worth the money and much brighter, and better design, The Truck Lites are far superior to the hellas I had added to the classic 3-4 years ago...
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Purely subjective, as I added the Truck Lites to my 95 Classic, and the JW Speakers to the D90, the Speakers are worth the money and much brighter, and better design, The Truck Lites are far superior to the hellas I had added to the classic 3-4 years ago...
I want to order lights for my classic, I just don't think the speakers will look right...
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Put LED Bulbs in the original housing and report back ... ;-)
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Old December 28th, 2015, 09:44 AM
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I did an LED upgrade on my 109. Worth every penny. Spent a lot of the last few months driving it during the night time hours. Lot of interstate and 2 lane back roads. WORTH EVERY PENNY. My only regret is not getting them sooner.

This is coming from a series owner. So you know when a cheap @$$ says drop the coin, you know its good.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 12:38 PM
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Purely subjective, as I added the Truck Lites to my 95 Classic, and the JW Speakers to the D90, the Speakers are worth the money and much brighter, and better design, The Truck Lites are far superior to the hellas I had added to the classic 3-4 years ago...
When Upgrading to the Truck Lites or JW speakers, Etc. Is a new harness necessary? My 86 Defender has the H4 plug at the headlights but will they flicker or does the existing wiring need any upgrades to run these LED's?

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Old December 28th, 2015, 01:36 PM
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They should not flicker.

If you are worried about flicker due to Wrangler JK-style flickering stories, you have to understand that the flickering on newer vehicles is due to PWM.

There is no PWM on these stone-age vehicles, hence no danger of flicker.

The worst danger you will experience is dealing with the existing wiring and switches, which may all be old, tired, and broken.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 01:53 PM
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When Upgrading to the Truck Lites or JW speakers, Etc. Is a new harness necessary? My 86 Defender has the H4 plug at the headlights but will they flicker or does the existing wiring need any upgrades to run these LED's?

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Truck lites are plug in, direct , but jw speakers require a new harness...
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Old December 28th, 2015, 01:58 PM
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I want to order lights for my classic, I just don't think the speakers will look right...
I ca sppreciate that , but im way past that point!
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Old December 28th, 2015, 02:01 PM
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Old December 28th, 2015, 06:55 PM
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Robert---The best deal I have found is $325 shipped on ebay for a pair of the Truck-Lites (careful as there are counterfeits out there) or $494 for a pair of JW Speakers. I am going to do a little more research.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 11:01 AM
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Well crap. Here I was, searching for best deals on lights, SHOCKED that I was going to spend upwards of $300 on headlights. I see all these great reviews, people happy. Then I watch those stinking reviews that Ed posts up (seriously, Thanks, Ed--those are great) and now I am thinking of spending upwards of $500 for lights? Jiminy Cricket, batman!

My leaning is definitely the JW speaker. the beam spread is awesome--particularly offroad where you don't want a strong cut off when traveling offroad---when you are camping in the woods and driving at night, the extra light over to the sides and up (higher than the low beam cutoff) is super helpful. The beam spreads are just better thought out.

I am still not convinced that I am going to spend $500 on headlights, but if I am going to spend $330, I might as well spend the $500 and do it right. Sheeeeeesh that is a lot of money...
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Old December 29th, 2015, 11:36 AM
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Just think of the ~ $75 wiring harness and time spent installing that you do NOT have to perform when using these modern low current draw bulbs. So $250 for the truck lites and additional time spent with the family.
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Has anyone tried these in cold conditions and seen if they are able to melt snow? This is my main concern with LEDs, low heat output. I know some of these lights have integrated heater elements but I wonder how powerful they are.
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Well crap. Here I was, searching for best deals on lights, SHOCKED that I was going to spend upwards of $300 on headlights. I see all these great reviews, people happy. Then I watch those stinking reviews that Ed posts up (seriously, Thanks, Ed--those are great) and now I am thinking of spending upwards of $500 for lights? Jiminy Cricket, batman! My leaning is definitely the JW speaker. the beam spread is awesome--particularly offroad where you don't want a strong cut off when traveling offroad---when you are camping in the woods and driving at night, the extra light over to the sides and up (higher than the low beam cutoff) is super helpful. The beam spreads are just better thought out. I am still not convinced that I am going to spend $500 on headlights, but if I am going to spend $330, I might as well spend the $500 and do it right. Sheeeeeesh that is a lot of money...
I went and talked to the manager at a local 4wheel parts and he told me he could not justify the $600 for the JW Speakers, he said the trucklites worked great and did the job, plus they're direct plug-ins. I'm going with the trucklites on the classic, I rarely drive it at night anyways.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 01:20 PM
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Here's a good thread about this on another forum: H4 LED headlight conversion kits.. Your thoughts - Jeep Wrangler Forum. Read the comments by KaiserJeep. He seems to know what he's talking about, although that first distance graph for halogens he shows doesn't seem right to me. The Hella kits for Jeep by Susquehanna Motorsports look like a good option for HID or LED. Otherwise I'd stick with halogen E-codes.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 01:44 PM
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I am still not convinced that I am going to spend $500 on headlights, but if I am going to spend $330, I might as well spend the $500 and do it right. Sheeeeeesh that is a lot of money...
Hahah! Sorry to make your life more difficult

I really want to caution against considering the JW Speakers Evo 2 as "doing it right". Nobody (nobody of any value, at any rate) is judging you on your purchase, except yourself. The Trucklites are very, very good LED headlamps, and among the 12 or more lights that HR tested, it's easily in the top three or four.

Jonathan at ICON used the Putco 12015 on one of his ridiculous too-many-dollars builds, and the HR review shows its incredible shortcomings as a headlight.

The difference between $500 and $330 is significant!
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Icon sells a JWS look alike for $400 here: BR Headlights | shop.icon4x4.com

My JWS Evo2's H13 connectors were plug and play on my 110. No modification was necessary. My JK needed a flicker box which also has a H4 to H13 conversion.
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