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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:17 PM
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OK - so I know this thread will induce a bunch of opinions cause, well, you know we all have arseholes!!!!

I have a boat - 3,500# tow weight - no other needs...

No other things I need to tow - BUT, here are my wants:
- I want to turn the key and not have to worry about check engine lights and shite
- I want it to be able to tow up to 10,000lbs
- I can't buy a diesel - (I screwed up with my big Excursion I had and momma has vetoed Diesels)
- I want to keep it under $50K
- I don't want a project
- It will be my daily driver
- I want bells and whistles - think ac&heat seats, touch screen audio and Nav

Opinions and recommendations are welcome - here is a truck I am thinking about.... Toyota Tundra 1794 Edition | eBay

Thanks guys - I am making because I have never owned a truck like this before...and I am thinking of going with an LR3/4
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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:23 PM
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Had on of those ( sans 1794 ) was a TRD

And if you tow at 70-80 ( which I know you will ) you get 6-7 mpg

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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:40 PM
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Ford F-150 ecoboost. Just be sure it has the hd tow option. Easy to tell, there is a 'GG' code on the door sticker. Go for 1-2 years old and you can get a loaded one well within your range.

Edit: forgot to add, I'm an auto broker and have driven them all. Ford has a really goods product right now. Also, I'm an avid rockcrawler in CO (big hills to haul up). A lot of my buddies are running the ecoboost in the mountains pulling close to 10k without issues. And in the FWIW file, I pull 10k and have a 6.7 power stroke f250 that is easily the best truck I've ever owned.
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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:41 PM
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Too bad diesel is a no-no for you, since the Tundra will be getting one shortly....

X2 on the F150 Ecoboost, if you MUST have a gas burner.
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Is your trailer a weight distributing one? The GMC Yukon can haul 8400 lbs. They are going for 38-42k
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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:57 PM
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Is your trailer a weight distributing one? The GMC Yukon can haul 8400 lbs. They are going for 38-42k
Was going to say 2007-2010 2500 Suburban. Gas and plush but a little short on the towing.
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A guy at work just bought a GMC Sierra All Terrain. It gets better mileage than an Eco boost. Don't trust the published numbers. Go try to drive an Eco boost f150 around and get the MPG they say it should get. The GMC will give you over 20 on the highway not towing. It has bells and whistles. The bumper steps are nice for getting into the bed when you have a trailer.

He got a very good deal on it thru their military pricing.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 01:27 AM
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X2 on too bad you leaving out the diesel option. I have a 2006 Silverado with the 6.6 Duramax and 6 speed Allison. You can tow a 10k lb trailer and not even know it's back there. No struggle at all, not even uphill passing on the highway. I've never had a truck so powerful before.
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Before Mama puts her veto card away would it make sense to identify the diesel of choice and take her on a date with the trailer in tow? Show her how sweet it performs. Hell put fucking rose peddles on the passenger seat and chocolates in the glove box if you have to. Don't give up yet man! We're here to support you! We can figure this shit out. We just need to put our fucking heads together and come at this from the right angle. .
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Old June 14th, 2015, 07:41 AM
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The newer diesels are very quiet and smooth compared to what was in the excursions. The new Ford 6.7 is barely louder than a gas motor, runs very quiet as does the Duramax and Cummins. Have you test drove one a new one?
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Old June 14th, 2015, 11:16 AM
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Agree with Raub about new diesels...they are a far cry from the 6.0 you had in he Ex. That being said, I love my F150 Ecoboost with the HD tow package. I pulled Bill's 109 back to him without any issues and have towed the dump trailer with 4-5k pounds in it several times. Fuel economy does suffer a little during the tow though
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All the plush and a big smile, F-250 diesel w/ 400/800!! Barely louder than a gasser, or get the 6.2 gasser for a few decibals quieter, but half the mpg.
F-150 w/ HD tow package is like a big car with grunt, and will do the job you describe while returning decent mpg.
Have both, use the 150 for family duties, and the big boy for giggles and to get the job done! The 6.7 is the most fun diesel ever made IMHO- and yes, I had a V-10 Touareg...
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yeah, I haven't driven one of the newer Diesel trucks...maybe I should do that...with Mumma, like Clay says. Heck if I could do diesel the F250 King Ranch is the bomb...but the idea of that being a daily driver for me????? I love the idea of the Cummings&Allison in the GMC's - but I do think that puts a newer one out of my price range.

Funny, no one has mentioned the RAM trucks? Are they just too knew?
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Old June 14th, 2015, 02:21 PM
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Daily driving my '14 f250, bone-stock, I get 15-16 mpg around town. With good diesel (CO pumps out crap), I've gotten as high as 20 mpg in ideal conditions (plenty of coasting, and 55 mph max).

Max bumper pull ratings for 250/350 is 10k for SRW, same as the F150 with the HD tow package. Gooseneck/5th wheel is much higher, and IMHO, the 250 handles the bumper load much better, with better brakes and suspension for hauling. However, if you're only pulling 5-6k on a regular basis, and not towing through high mountain passes, I wouldn't go for the 250. Get the 150 and enjoy the better ride quality.

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yeah, I haven't driven one of the newer Diesel trucks...maybe I should do that...with Mumma, like Clay says. Heck if I could do diesel the F250 King Ranch is the bomb...but the idea of that being a daily driver for me????? I love the idea of the Cummings&Allison in the GMC's - but I do think that puts a newer one out of my price range.

Funny, no one has mentioned the RAM trucks? Are they just too knew?
Newer Rams don't have the payload capacity. Very limited due to their coil suspension. That being said, if you do an independent lease, Chrysler will give you a lot of cash back. Only on the 1500's though. The diesels are their bread-and-butter, and loaded with profit. I've owned two Duramax's and two Dodge Cummins...they pull well. But, there's a reason I have a Ford now.
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yeah, I haven't driven one of the newer Diesel trucks...maybe I should do that...with Mumma, like Clay says. Heck if I could do diesel the F250 King Ranch is the bomb...but the idea of that being a daily driver for me????? I love the idea of the Cummings&Allison in the GMC's - but I do think that puts a newer one out of my price range. Funny, no one has mentioned the RAM trucks? Are they just too knew?
I love my Ram 1500, more than enough towing capacity for me. Hemi, not diesel. Nice thing about the 2015's is the 8 speed tranny, it's great for the highway. It's my daily driver and my 2nd one.
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I am thinking of going with an LR3/4
An LR3/4 is only rated for 7,700 lbs. I was pretty pleased with how mine tows and the fuel economy I seemed to be getting, but I was only towing a really heavy load (another LR3) for about 100 miles or so.

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Ford F-150 ecoboost.
My manager at work had an older Nissan Titan (first year I think) and about two years ago he replaced it with an F150 with the Eco boost and he hates it. He says it gets worse MPG and doesn't tow as well as his old truck. He is thinking hard about a new Titan with a diesel. A friend of a friend has one also and he was so angry with it he was talking about trying to start or join a class action lawsuit. (Probably just releasing steam). Not a very large sample, but of the two people I've spoken to that owned them, two were not pleased.

Perhaps they do better in the mountains. I can see how the turbo engines would shine in the thinner air.
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Dendy's sweet LR3 is up for sale. He yanked a Conqueror commander all over the Appalachian's with it and that's a heavy beetotch

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...r-LR3-HD-Built
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I have towed over 10k with the f250. Truck ate that up and asked for more. Gets mid teens towing @ 70 mph.
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I have towed over 10k with the f250. Truck ate that up and asked for more. Gets mid teens towing @ 70 mph.
Open trailer? My enclosed gets 10 mpg hwy whether I'm loaded or not. I'm thinking it's aero more than weight.
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Dendy's sweet LR3 is up for sale. He yanked a Conqueror commander all over the Appalachian's with it and that's a heavy beetotch http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...r-LR3-HD-Built
That is a very nice rig, Dendy works across the street from me.
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