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Old February 25th, 2004, 11:26 PM
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Thinking about some new rubber for the D-90. Not right away but definitely in the next 6 months. Wondering what people's opinions are.

Everyone uses their D-90 a little different so here are my requirements:

I am leaning toward a 2-3" lift via a SG Stage II w/3rd link. I think I would like to keep the stock alloys. I don't want to do any trimming. The truck is my DD, but I want it to be fairly capable off-road. Don't mind a little noise - Hoping the Dynamat will make up for the additional tire noise, but don't want too much noise either.

I really like the tires on Martin Podgorski's rig. Wondering how they perform. Any recommendations appreciated.

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Old February 25th, 2004, 11:40 PM
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I personally like the MT/R's. A lot of people here in CO run those tires. Very good in sand and rocks but they suck in mud. They are very good on road. Get 33X12.5X16 or 305/70/16 and if you keep your wheels I don't think you have to trim but your turning radius will suffer.

P.S. I had to edit since I wrote the wrong tire size
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Old February 26th, 2004, 11:48 AM
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Hey Yousef, my kids have the same Peg Perigo "Goucho" open top rock buster as in your avatar. I put Land Rover ovals in the back and front though....
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Old February 26th, 2004, 01:41 PM
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Here's the tires I've run over the past nine years:

Stock BFG AT's - 265/75/16
What can I say? They were stock.

Old-style BFG MT's - 285/75/16
Better off-road than stock AT's, but loud on road and terrible on snowy/icy roads.

New-style BFG AT/KO's - 285/75/16
Excellent on road, good off-road. Great tire to run if you're using your rig as a daily driver.

Pro-Comp AT's - 305/70/16
Too wide (turning radius sucked), not nearly as good on snow/ice as "severe weather" rating implies. Nice highway ride and cornering, long wearing. Never used off-road, but doubt they'd perform nearly as well as the BFG AT's.

Currently: New-style BFG MT/KM's - 255/85/16
Best tire I've owned! Much better than it's predecessor in all conditions I've experienced. Excellent off-road tire with great on-road manners.
I had mine siped and was very impressed this winter.
These are perfect for my current needs which include light almost-daily driving and moderate to difficult (not extreme) wheeling, although that's not to imply that I wouldn't use them on the toughest trails out there.

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Old February 26th, 2004, 07:09 PM
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Yousef,
can 33/12.5/16's fit on the factory alloys? I thought they were too big, maybe im wrong...
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Old February 26th, 2004, 09:46 PM
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I've seen few of them and they looked fine. I know Art had that size but were too fat......

I know they will even better with 1" wheel spacer. I saw a guy in Moab with 35x12.5X16 (315/75/16) with 1" wheel spacers and they looked awesome.
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Old February 26th, 2004, 10:15 PM
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Gotta go with Art. I run the same tire, and it is just about the best solution. I'm running 2" lift and 1" offset black nuggets -- had to take a wee bit off the back corner of the eyebrows....

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Old February 27th, 2004, 12:54 AM
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Are you going to go boulder crawling with the j@@pers? That's a big lift for a 90. Some guys like that, e.g. John Lee wish they hadn't gone that far.

Get some of the G90s from George! Badest of the bestest tires. I wish I needed new ones when I found out he had some.
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Old February 27th, 2004, 01:55 AM
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I really like Art's truck, it's looks balanced. However, the kind of wheelin I do requires a wider tires, and skinny tires will not do for me.
It's your choice and how you want you D90 to look like, plus it all depends on the terrian you use them for.
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Old February 27th, 2004, 10:29 AM
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tires ?

You guys see many more Defenders than I, so if I was to go with the Wolf wheel, what width would give the effect of the tire coming right out to the edge of the flare? I am planning on the OME kit and want to go 34" min. on the height, do you guys think the 10.5 inch Swamper will get me to the edge? I have heard it is not a good idea to put the 12.5" on the Wolf rim plus I really don't want to much of a ballon effect.

Also, by going with a 34" tire, will it wear anything in the gears or xfer case??
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Old February 27th, 2004, 11:17 AM
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Joe, the Super Swamper Radial's will be quieter than the tires Martin is running. The SSR's are more offroad and not so much a street tire though.

I had BFG MT/Ko's previously and they seemed to be a pretty good compromise between street and trail.

I am not sure but a 34x10.50 with SafariGard Stage II lift and 1" spacer would be right on the border of trimming and not trimming your fender flares.

I would also consider availability in whatever tire I bought.

Also do you like the fat Jeep look or the pizza cutter look? I personally think the 34x10.50 is somewhere in between.
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Old February 27th, 2004, 11:37 AM
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Is Martin running the LTB's?

Jan, I wouldn't go over 10.5" width with the wolf wheels. Also the only think you'll wear out is the spider gears in diff but it'll take a while before you break'em.

255/85/16 will look to small with SGII suspension as it's provide 2.5-3" lift.
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Old February 27th, 2004, 03:15 PM
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hey Ron, how is your kids FJ (LR) Peg Perigo is holding up? I had to replace the motor in my daughter Peg Perigo twice, and one time she was having fun in front of the house and the front right tire came off, amazingly she kept it under control... Hmmm I wonder where she her skills from
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Old February 27th, 2004, 08:31 PM
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The WOLF wheels are offset about 1/2 inch, which looks a lot more significant than it is. Nonetheless track is improved by an inch and it allows proper size tires to match bead and tread evenly giving the correct sidewall curvature, etc.
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Joe, modifying your Rover is like upgrading your PC, as soon as you do something, someone else comes out with something better, so if you only go with 2-3" of lift you will some day find yourself wishing for more lift, save yourself the pain and agony and just go with 4-6" of lift and throw some 39x10.5" Boggers under it and you will be happy longer right.

Anyway you say DD, how many miles a day? I have the 35" MTRs they are a little noisy but the ride is great compared to most interco tires on road. Most of the guys that drive the truck to the trail and use it every day run MTRs or BFG MTs and are very happy. The guys with interco's either trailer it or wished they had MTRs when I pass them on the highway doing 80 mph and they are at 65 mph.
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Old February 28th, 2004, 12:29 PM
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save yourself the pain and agony and just go with 4-6" of lift and throw some 39x10.5



That's too funny. I've only had the D-90 for two months, and I've already added:

SG sliders
SG bumper
w/ SG skid plate
Troy's Lock boxes
Rover Biz diff guards
A/C kit
MB Quart Speakers
Checker Plate wing tops
GeoGear quick nuts and studs
etc, etc, etc,

I can see that this D-90 is a project that will never quite be finished.

My wife is starting to get pissed that I spend more time and money on my D-90 than her. Maybe i should bring her some and ask for forgiveness.

Then again - maybe not
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Old February 28th, 2004, 12:33 PM
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oops

Sorry Chris, this was supposed to go under the tires, tires, tires post.

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My Ho got pissed that I spent so much money on my LR's once. She then nursed her black eye and didn't say anymore.
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Old February 28th, 2004, 12:38 PM
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