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Old February 24th, 2010, 02:23 PM
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:00 PM
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Buy her a converted sprinter van from Mercedes,
Where do they sell these? I searched Sprinters online but never saw a family conversion to one.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:34 PM
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LR3 far to small and so is the LR4 in my opinion. Just think of all the crap you have to haul with two kids now and imagine all of it growing in size. I wife drives an Expedition and we have three boys(3,5,and 8). When we go snowboarding or go on a long trip I have to use a Thule cargo box,ski rack or bike rack and that is with the third row out. Forget it if I want to bring the dog. At that point I bring my trailer. I am a Ford guy but the new Ford just are not as nice as the new Denali's. I can fit a ton more stuff in and on top of my 110 but the wife just doesnt feel as safe in it as her car and she is right. I love my Defenders but I would bet money my 10 year old Ford will not fail like a LR.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 04:55 PM
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A Suburban for two kids? That is crazy.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:02 PM
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seriously...for two kids any mid sized SUV should work. what all do you freaking take with you? i would think an LR3 would be perfect. a suburban is just over the top in size...a Tahoe would be much better for the size of your family.

i remember on some pixar movie or the like, some animals or bugs or something came to the city and saw a car for the first time after living away from humans their whole lives. when they looked at a huge suv, one goes "wow. that thing is HUGE. how many humans fit in there?" the response of another animal used to it all? "usually one". "crazy", said the first animal.

just be realistic.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:17 PM
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An LR4 with 2 kids will be plenty of room. My sis-in-law carried 2 adults, 2 kids and a Bernise Mtn dog along with skis and snowboards. They had to throw items in a Thule box but the dog pretty much had the whole back to himself. When we had 2 kids we'd fit everything into a Disco II without problems including a full size retriever. I bring a lot of stuff on trips too.

Like I said before, I would love to get something smaller than the Yukon XL as it is a pain in that ass for driving around town. Unless we are on a ski/bike trip, there is always too much room in that vehicle.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:22 PM
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Where do they sell these? I searched Sprinters online but never saw a family conversion to one.
Plenty of options. Tons of resellers/converters:
http://www.conversion-vans-online.com/unit.php?id=470
http://www.creativemobileinteriors.c.../sprinters.asp
http://www.mercedessprinterconversions.com/

Those were just a few google results.
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Mike, do you have any kids? Try going on a 5 or 6 day camping trip with everything you need. Tents, coolers, food, dog, clothes. toys, sports stuff,beer, fishing gear, guns, water, and this is just the top the of list of stuff you need when you little kids. I might not know alot about Defenders but trust me when I say as the family grows so does the amount of space you need. Not the number of kids but the space their stuff will take up. Wish I would have taken a pic of my car before I left for Tahoe for a week. Its crazy. Maybe a mid size SUV for a weekend trip but no way for a long trip.

Don, I have a BM dog so I know the space they take up. Day trip maybe. Three kids, dog, no way.
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Why is it that some of you have to tell people what the need to drive, or what should be suitable. I have a Yukon XL 2500 series... I use it both to two and as a daily driver. We use the truck to camp, travel and haul things. We also have a RR, but it is not always big enough. We bought the Yukon after not being able to put extra family in the truck or pick up my in-laws from the airport without leaving my wife and kids at home. We bought the truck when we only had two kids, now we have three, ever try and fit three kids, and four adults in a RR? The kids want to see Grandma when she comes in town. Not to mention, where do you put luggage, strollers and etc?
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Old February 24th, 2010, 08:20 PM
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Why is it that some of you have to tell people what the need to drive, or what should be suitable. I have a Yukon XL 2500 series... I use it both to two and as a daily driver. We use the truck to camp, travel and haul things. We also have a RR, but it is not always big enough. We bought the Yukon after not being able to put extra family in the truck or pick up my in-laws from the airport without leaving my wife and kids at home. We bought the truck when we only had two kids, now we have three, ever try and fit three kids, and four adults in a RR? The kids want to see Grandma when she comes in town. Not to mention, where do you put luggage, strollers and etc?
Scott has it right.
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Scott has it right.
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We have an RR and it only fits the two kids and their stuff. Strollers and diaper bags etc take up the whole cargo area. Difficult to even fit a full grocery shopping in nevermind the dog or anything else.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 12:14 AM
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Sadly you should buy her what keeps her happy, only way your life will be happy. I personally have had my D2 since relatively new, hauled two kids, two dogs, and all the crap that goes with, but I am a rover girl and can't drive anything else. I want a bench seat for Cvc's 90 so I can drive it more often with the kids. I would go 110 before anything else, but that's me. Get her the suburban and smile!
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Old February 25th, 2010, 12:54 AM
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She loved and misses my D90 , and said if I could fit out the interior of a 110 like a nice modern vehicle she would love to have one . I wont go into why you need massive storage space when you have kids strollers , and all of a sudden have to stop at the grocery store , or Sams Club Cosco any where, it just takes way more space any anything we ever did as a childless couple. She wont be caught dead in a van / mini van . And I have to tell you Land Rover 4 wheel drive systems are so far superior to most other manufactures . You throw a Detroit in the rear end of a LR and with the right tires your unstoppable. Right now I have a 2500 Duramax 4x4 that I love it hauls and tows like nothing else (and gets great fuel economy 16-20mpg) but I cant stand the 4 wheel drive system, Selectable 4x4, auto locking rear end that disengages at 25mph ! It is useless , we just go around 23" of snow you cant pull out of a parking lot to a paved road without going into 4 wheel drive and then deactivating when you get on pavement . The rear end at any time you have spin (snow or mud) makes it think it is traveling faster than 25 mph so it unlocks (POS) and they dont make a detroit for it.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:14 AM
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Those look really cool - thanks for the links. But they are probably around the same size as my Yukon XL. I've seen the SWB Sprinters around town as work trucks and that seems like it would be perfect in a low roof version. My ideal ride would be a Mercedes Viano. I got to ride in a few of them in Italy a couple years ago. Tons of room and with a 6 speed manual with diesel :nice:

Here's a cool pic of one:
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If you want a 110 and a 90 let me know Chris. I will make you a great package deal
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:32 AM
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Don, I have a BM dog so I know the space they take up. Day trip maybe. Three kids, dog, no way.
We had my sis-in-laws BM dog with our white lab coming home from VT on Thanksgiving. The Bernese had a spot on the rear bench right next to my son. He took up 2 spots and the lab got moved to the space between the caption seats and the other 2 kids but laying on a blanket. Sometimes I think the dogs are more spoiled than the kids.

I wasn't saying people don't need the space, I just wish I could get what I need in something smaller. That being said, our Yukon is a really great driving vehicle considering how big it is. Having the previous version Suburban, GM made a lot of improvements with it.

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She loved and misses my D90 , and said if I could fit out the interior of a 110 like a nice modern vehicle she would love to have one . I wont go into why you need massive storage space when you have kids strollers , and all of a sudden have to stop at the grocery store , or Sams Club Cosco any where, it just takes way more space any anything we ever did as a childless couple. She wont be caught dead in a van / mini van . And I have to tell you Land Rover 4 wheel drive systems are so far superior to most other manufactures . You throw a Detroit in the rear end of a LR and with the right tires your unstoppable. Right now I have a 2500 Duramax 4x4 that I love it hauls and tows like nothing else (and gets great fuel economy 16-20mpg) but I cant stand the 4 wheel drive system, Selectable 4x4, auto locking rear end that disengages at 25mph ! It is useless , we just go around 23" of snow you cant pull out of a parking lot to a paved road without going into 4 wheel drive and then deactivating when you get on pavement . The rear end at any time you have spin (snow or mud) makes it think it is traveling faster than 25 mph so it unlocks (POS) and they dont make a detroit for it.
Yeah, Vermont is really tough on vehicles. Tons of snow all winter long (well maybe not this year) - then you guys go right into mud season. What about a Tahoe with the Z71 package? I'd highly recommend the captain's seating for the 2nd row. It makes it a ton easier for the kids to hop into the 3rd row.
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We had my sis-in-laws BM dog with our white lab coming home from VT on Thanksgiving. The Bernese had a spot on the rear bench right next to my son. He took up 2 spots and the lab got moved to the space between the caption seats and the other 2 kids but laying on a blanket. Sometimes I think the dogs are more spoiled than the kids.

I wasn't saying people don't need the space, I just wish I could get what I need in something smaller. That being said, our Yukon is a really great driving vehicle considering how big it is. Having the previous version Suburban, GM made a lot of improvements with it.

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Yeah, Vermont is really tough on vehicles. Tons of snow all winter long (well maybe not this year) - then you guys go right into mud season. What about a Tahoe with the Z71 package? I'd highly recommend the captain's seating for the 2nd row. It makes it a ton easier for the kids to hop into the 3rd row.
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