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Old September 17th, 2010, 05:55 PM
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The Rover Dilemma

New guy alert here. I'm infatuated with 110 Double Cabs from sightings in the Caribbean and Africa and am investigating legal importation. This forum is great, however it highlights one of the odd things about these vehicles. While you guys spend alot of time talking about repairing this and upgrading that and preventing the other, still these vehicles have a reputation for endless reliability and eternal lives. So, which is it?
Living in CT I'll be dealing with salted roads in the winter, as must those owners in much of New England, still there are endless threads on rust prevention and damage repair.
I understand that a legally imported Rover will be at least 25 years old and a 25 year old ANYTHING will be a challenge, but taking upgrades and off-roading repairs off the table, just how much time and $ are you guys spending to keep a Rover driveable and on the road?
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Since you all seem to sign off with your current drives, I'll fess up to a 2001 Audi S4, but my favorite car of all times was a 1968 Corvair Corsa convertable, followed by my 1974 Vega GT.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:04 PM
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Corvair Corsa...so you've already owned a car notorious for fires and blowing up. I think you're ready for Defender ownership.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:11 PM
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Actually both the Corvair and Vega could be dealt with simply by keeping a case of oil under the bonnet, just hoping those days are (mostly) gone.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:40 PM
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Down here in the South away from all of that nasty salt stuff its relatively easy to keep an old Land Rover running reliably. They're not fast or comfortable but I've put hundreds of thousands of miles in them and we suit each other well.

As for Corvairs - the Corsa models were 1965 and 1966 only and they came with either a 140 HP engine with 4 carbs or the upgraded 180 HP turbo (1963 and 64 turbocharged models were called Monza Spyders and had a 150 HP engine in the old body style). You could get the 140 engine in the 1966 and 1967 Monza models as well but I think by 1968 it may have become unavailable. I owned four Corvairs including two Corsas and two Monzas and my mother had a 1966 Monza as well. They could be fun and fast and they eventually developed some pushrod tube seals that wouldn't leak.

This was my turbocharged 1965 Corsa Convertible - engine was souped up to provide a little over 250 HP.



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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:19 PM
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I stand corrected, it was a 1965 with 4 X 1 barrel carbs. Maroon. Sweet. With the top down on a nice summer day you could idle around town and forget the engine was running - it was that smooth. Course in the winter you'd be hard pressed to get much heat from the air-cooled engine - mine didn't have the gas burning heater.

Not to hijack my own thread, but my first car was a 1961 VW Bug with the cloth sunroof and no gas guage. Worth every one of the 80 dollars I spent on it.

But back to the energy/time/cost required to maintain these infinately reliable Rovers. If I can't drive one in the winter cause of road salt, well that's going to put a crimp in it's utility. Can they really be daily drivers or must I always be on guard for the next rust spot or drivetrain failure?

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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:31 PM
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I don't have a defender now (in the market for just the right one) but I have been driving Land Rovers for 25 years. I have found them to be very reliable, knock on wood. As my wife puts it they "leak, squeak, and rattle a lot" but they are solid. If you baseline the truck and keep up with the maintenance they do pretty well.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:46 PM
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There are plenty of ways to keep the rust at bay among galvanization of parts, stainless steel fastners, WD40, and waxoyl. My 110 was driven all seasons by the original owner and he never did anything to keep it up, so it rotted like crazy. My 90 which I rebuilt on a galvanized chassis with extensive use of stainless steel fasteners did fine through 3 NY winters. I just used WD40 inside the tubes on the running boards, roll cage etc and shot some waxoyl onto the bottom of the tub to keep things preserved. No problems.
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In the UK we have the same rust/salt issues, my main car has a waxoiled galvanised chassis, which i waxoil every 2 years.

As for Double Cabs, there is a very nice TD5 one for sale in the for sale section. We also have 2 x double cabs for sale, a java black 200tdi vehicle and a rebuilt bonatti grey one with a galvanised chassis and a galvanised bulkhead.

I was driving an orange 300tdi double cab as a daily driver, but i am changing the body to stationwagon so it more practical for my Girlfriend to drive. We are spraying it wind jammer blue(arles blue)
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In the UK we have the same rust/salt issues, my main car has a waxoiled galvanised chassis, which i waxoil every 2 years.

As for Double Cabs, there is a very nice TD5 one for sale in the for sale section. We also have 2 x double cabs for sale, a java black 200tdi vehicle and a rebuilt bonatti grey one with a galvanised chassis and a galvanised bulkhead.

I was driving an orange 300tdi double cab as a daily driver, but i am changing the body to stationwagon so it more practical for my Girlfriend to drive. We are spraying it wind jammer blue(arles blue)
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But back to the energy/time/cost required to maintain these infinately reliable Rovers. If I can't drive one in the winter cause of road salt, well that's going to put a crimp in it's utility. Can they really be daily drivers or must I always be on guard for the next rust spot or drivetrain failure?
I can't speak for Defenders (yet - hopefully in the next couple of weeks), but I've had an '82 Scrambler since '98 and put on 150,000 miles, and rust-wise, the CJ lines were horrible. I wouldn't drive one as a daily driver up north in the winter, unless it had a galvanized frame and a non-stock tub.

On this board, most of the Defenders are at least 13 years old. Add off-road usage, as well as the additional components and weight for off-road usage, and you have something that needs constant attention. There is a solution, though: replace everything! There's very little original, un-rebuilt equipment left on my Scrambler: the frame, the tub (sans fenders), front differential (very light usage), and some nick-nacks (washer fluid bottle, speedometer, steering column, some steel lines, fuel filler neck, etc....). It's only broke down when I failed to replace or properly repair something that, in hindsight, I should have noticed ahead of time - e.g. an incorrect clutch from O'Reillys that was too stiff, differential fluid seepage around disc brake hubs, etc.... And all but two failures (a seized up rear wheel bearing and a busted clutch bellcrank) were repairable on the spot or in the parking lot of a nearby hotel.

Just keep up on the maintenance, don't ignore the little stuff ('cause they turn into big stuff), and only jury-rig to get yourself home to where you can fix it properly. And move south to get away from the salt. But not to Texas - too dang crowded here already
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If you ever come to the UK you'll notice that there are alot of defenders, this is because they make excellent all year round daily drivers.
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