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Old August 22nd, 2016, 12:40 PM
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Heads up grey market Cali D owners! Mobile/random smog check? More scary than a DUI checkpoint after a night and a pint ;-)
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 12:45 PM
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forget gray market- any Defender/Rover on any given day. Flash a check engine light, look up and smog check- new roll-back revenue!!
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 12:48 PM
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 12:56 PM
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 12:57 PM
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 01:31 PM
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 01:34 PM
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It is completely voluntary. If you choose to let them test your vehicle, pass or fail nothing comes of it. And no, they don't give out a certificate if you're due and you pass.
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 02:00 PM
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With three lit CHP's, it looked like the heavy handed kind of "voluntary" at the time. Good to know. ;-)
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If voluntary, what is the point of spending the money on setting up the system to do it?
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 02:23 PM
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With three lit CHP's, it looked like the heavy handed kind of "voluntary" at the time. Good to know. ;-)
There is no heavy handed with the smog details. If they flag you in, simply say you aren't interested and have other places to be. There is no absolute requirement for you to participate. I've been in while in my Defender and just said I didn't have time. It didn't get any further than that, the officer just told me to be careful pulling back out. They also weren't set up for full time four wheel, but the officer that flagged me in hadn't seen a Defender before so didn't know what it was.


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If voluntary, what is the point of spending the money on setting up the system to do it?
As far as I've been told, it's to get a snapshot of what's really out there vs the info they get from smog shops which don't always jive. A checks and balances for the smog check system, or what they can do with what they're given.
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 02:33 PM
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 03:18 PM
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...the fact that it is voluntary means the results of the study are already skewed...
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...the fact that it is voluntary means the results of the study are already skewed...

I didn't say it was a "study." You'd have to move to California and become an employee of BAR to understand why they do what they do. They aren't the state agency I work for, so I can't give the definitive answer for what they do or why they do it. I merely passed along what those that do work for BAR have said when I've asked.
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Va does something similar, they set upon a on ramp with a slight hill to force you to accelerate, they have calibrated sniffers and tag readers... if you fail more than once in 30 days you get a letter and an invitation to your local test center to verify if you pass or fail.
if you fail you're required to repair to make it pass.
if your tags are near renewal and you pass, you get an invitation to proceed with renewal process with out testing because you have been tested and passed.
If you are driving on antique tags and you go thru sniffer more than once in a month you're screwed...
they are tough in here in northern VA....
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 08:46 PM
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Va does something similar, they set upon a on ramp with a slight hill to force you to accelerate, they have calibrated sniffers and tag readers... if you fail more than once in 30 days you get a letter and an invitation to your local test center to verify if you pass or fail. if you fail you're required to repair to make it pass. if your tags are near renewal and you pass, you get an invitation to proceed with renewal process with out testing because you have been tested and passed. If you are driving on antique tags and you go thru sniffer more than once in a month you're screwed... they are tough in here in northern VA....
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Andy, does the People's Republik of Kalifornia know you own and operate a Land Rover Defender? There is NOTHING green nor safe about a Defender, so surely the Green Police of People's Republik will catch on to you and your completely unethical environmental death machine.
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Andy, does the People's Republik of Kalifornia know you own and operate a Land Rover Defender? There is NOTHING green nor safe about a Defender, so surely the Green Police of People's Republik will catch on to you and your completely unethical environmental death machine.
I'm fairly safe. Everyone knows the gross polluting Defenders didn't come out until 95.
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Old August 23rd, 2016, 06:34 PM
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Now that's scary!

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Tell me about it, Im licensed inspector here.... there is a VA DEQ website detailing all of the sneaky testing procedures...
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