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Old May 4th, 2010, 01:03 AM
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Tell me about the LR3?

Ok this last week I was nosing around a Land Rover Dealership with the Girlfriend and we were looking at the LR3/LR4. She has a nice Disco II and was asking about the differences between the platforms. She was specifically interested in how capable the LR3 and LR4 are off road?

I honestly could not tell her much beyond the independent suspensions provided a nicer "on road ride" and of course the nosy sales guy showed up launched into a sales pitch about leather seats... It was at this point we extracted ourselves and headed out.

So can anyone tell me, is the LR3/LR4 a capable off road vehicle or have they just become glorified cushy SUVs for the American market?

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Old May 4th, 2010, 02:13 AM
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They are more capable than you would think, but not easily modified... I guess if you wanted a stock truck that could tackle some tough terrain its not a bad choice...
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Old May 4th, 2010, 06:42 AM
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Here's my .02: I have a Rover shop, and I drive an 06 LR3 HSE (among other Rovers). And I have 7 LR3s as customer's cars.
I bought mine with 30k at a time when we wanted a family hauler that could tow and double as the work truck. Looked at full size pick ups and decided the Rover represented the business best.
I was using a 95 SWB RRC as a tow vehicle , work truck, family hauler, off road toy.
Admittedly, I was apprehensive about going off road as it was shiny, newish, and I had others for that behavior! Took it to Rausch Creek recently with a buddy in his 90 and it performed extremely well over the rocky wet terrain we had that day.
Pluses: rear seats fold down to make a cargo space that is flat to the backs of the front seats; I can eek out 21 mpg if I am gentle on the throttle. Lots of technology and luxury aapointments, mine and the others have proven very reliable with one at 100k nearly trouble free miles, headlights turn with the wheels ( I like that feature a lot!)
Failures on mine: front diff at 31k (warranty), EAS height sensor harness corrosion (w), EGR valve leaked coolant taillamp bulb- required Genuine bulb to fix, fog lamp fuse blew once,
Cons: combined mileage around 14-15mpg, cant load phone address book into ICE, spare tire hangs low as do a couple of heat shields, EAS compressor and fuel tank are vulnerable, no control over electronic lockers,
"Mods":waterproof seat covers, window tint on the fixed rear sunroof panels,
Future mods: some armor to protect the vulnerable bits, set it up to be more of a vehicle dependent expedition vehicle than a rock crawler.
Hope this helps!
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Not sure I answered your question: the terrain response is a neat feature that does some remarkable things with electronics like reducing the throttle sensitivity in rock crawl mode. The DSC can be turned off if you need wheel spin in a situation. The fuel tank and EAS compressor are vulnerable. I ran Rausch on Michelin street tires with 35k miles on them- did very well. I think it did a lot of the work for me but it requires a lot of attention to wheel placement and line plotting. 19" wheels don't have a lot of MT options. Next trip is the Carolina beaches.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 07:41 AM
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Having driven both off road I can tell you that the LR4 is more than an LR3 with new designation, it is a significant improvement on the LR4 in most systems as well as looks and trim level. The new engine is fanatastic too.

As someone who drives a franken-series hard and is an old school fan, I wanted to hate the new technology. After learning it and using it, I simply can't.
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Having driven both off road I can tell you that the LR4 is more than an LR3 with new designation, it is a significant improvement on the LR4 in most systems as well as looks and trim level. The new engine is fanatastic too.

As someone who drives a franken-series hard and is an old school fan, I wanted to hate the new technology. After learning it and using it, I simply can't.
Completely interesting. So coming from what might be described as a purist position the LR4 at least is not just a cushy soccer mom mobile?

My fear in owning one is that they are "TOOO NICE" to take off road. Here in the US we don't have a real option except of course the 25 year old Defender route that we all are knee (and in some cases neck deep) in as an option from Land Rover.... Hummmmm How has the marquee gotten so far from it's roots?

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I came out of a 95 SWB into the LR3 so I can't quite get my head around how much nicer a LR4 could be! Yeah, to nice/clean/straight/shiny. Especially since I have a built Disco I for trail use. But it was impressive even if a little detached from what was going on electronically.
As far as limiting yourself to 25 year old defenders, don't forget the Range Rover Classic and Disco I are very capable and likely a cheaper entry fee to the build up!
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