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Old January 17th, 2005, 08:46 PM
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Tdi on the Road!

Well, mine's almost done. I've got it road tested, driveable, and filled up with 27 gallons of diesel. Yeah, there's lots of little stuff left to do (silly things like the dash!) but now its a running, driving project instead of a garage ornament.

Most important thing: Get rid of the V8 Stickers.
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Old January 17th, 2005, 09:37 PM
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Hey Jim, sounds great that you got it running. If you don't mind me asking, how did you end up wiring the main harness to the engine harness (any detailed info would be great)? It has been so long since I started the swap, I forgot how I had planned to wire everything (spent countless nights thinking about it, only to forget a year later).

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Old January 17th, 2005, 10:00 PM
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I spent countless hours thinking until I just broke down and bought an AMR5856. I tore out the NAS harness and sold it with the 3.9L.

The NAS rear harness will plug into the 5856 but requires about 3 wires to be rearranged at the plug. I used an AMR4019 for the engine harness. That all works out to about as simple as Rover wiring can be.
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Old January 18th, 2005, 09:22 AM
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Jim,


VERY COOL... congratulations.

If you've got any engine compartment pics, I'd love to see them.

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Old January 18th, 2005, 09:46 AM
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if you buy one of these "kits" with are the wiring harness included or would that be varible on the vendor? I imagine a wiring harness is availible from rover but is costly... planning my TDi swap
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Old January 18th, 2005, 10:56 AM
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I'm not aware of any 300Tdi swap kits other than the NLA Rovers North one. It allegedly included an adapter harness for the NAS, but I have been unable to either get a part number or confirm the existance of the part.

The main harness was 600 bucks and the engine harness was 250. A bit pricey, but after considering several options, I decided I wanted to end up with something that could be diagnosed and serviced using a factory wiring diagram. I've done frankenstein projects in the past and regretted it since I always forget what I did.

I'll take some more pix.
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Old January 18th, 2005, 06:32 PM
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Old January 19th, 2005, 10:24 AM
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(snip)I've got it road tested, driveable(snip)but now its a running(snip)Most important thing: Get rid of the V8 Stickers.
So...how do you feel "her" now?
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 04:29 PM
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So...how do you feel "her" now?
Driving impressions?

Slow as hell! It was slow with the v8, but now its damn slow. It doesnt bother me one bit, in fact it keeps me from driving as aggressively as I might otherwise

Its alot different than driving a gas motor, and I'm not sure I completely have the hang of it yet.

I'm glad I did it, anyone considering a swap should come take a test drive though, because you'd hate to blow 10k+ and not have it be your thing.
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 04:40 PM
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where in SC? Do you other folks the the Tdi is weak?
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 07:16 PM
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I'm in Columbia.

I should be perfectly clear, its not weak, its slow.

You can let the clutch out in second gear without using the gas.

But you're not going to match acceleration with the V8.
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i guess speed is all what you are used to......i suppose if your used to a V8 it may not be as fast, but i don't know, not having had V8 power to compare with....in my case...i had the 2.5 n/a deisel......so the difference is amazing......i have never had a 110 or 90, that had passing power before......and now it does.........but then deisel power is way different that gasoline power in my opinion....the deisel is wonderful in the range "I" need it...where as the gasoline was much better at higher speed.....and of course i am still in the break-in period as you are Jim.....so that will improve i am sure......now granted my engine is a little different than yours, and i do have a little different gear in the transfer case (1.4), but right now my engine pulls like a freight train (especially) in 3rd and 4th gear, and i am told by people that have this Tdi that the power gets much better with some mileage on it, still these are not V8s and they do take some getting used to..

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"Slow as hell!"

Did you do something wronge? Is there some fuel delivery issue? I will put my Tdi up against any stock rover V8 0-50. Even with the 37's. Somethings not right.
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 10:23 PM
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"Slow as hell!"

Did you do something wronge? Is there some fuel delivery issue? I will put my Tdi up against any stock rover V8 0-50. Even with the 37's. Somethings not right.
Oh Crap, I put the motor in backwards!

Actually, I think everything is set up properly, but I'm still in my first hundred miles on a new motor - Buck, you started with one that was already broken in didnt you? You also might be running a more aggressive transfer case. I'm using the 1.2.

Plus, this is all a pretty unscientific, seat of the pants analysis. I will admit to not timing or comparing the two, and the truck is has been off the road for 4 months, so I might have forgotten how slow the v8 really was.

It also might have something to do with the fact I've been driving the M6 in the meantime...
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Out of all the options, I think installing the engine backwards is the most likely! It could need to break in and I do have the 1.4 t-case. With the 1.2, be sure to get a EGT guage and keep an eye on it!!! I would also check the fuel delivery. I do not know if that pump comes adjusted correctly. When you get it dialed in, you will curse the day the Rover V8 was born!
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I'm using the 1.2.
Where did it come from?
1.410 (uhmm...?) should have been fine.

Also,did it come with the EGR?
If so,kill it (unless you're really pollution sensitive)


Sure it may not be as fast as a 4.0 but once you'll get use you'll never regret it.

Welcome "on board" in the meanwhile


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Do you already write on the Tdi list BTW?
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Old January 25th, 2005, 07:46 AM
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Mine is new and has plenty of pickup. I have a 1.4 t case and 4.11's though.
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I went out an played around with it yesterday - I think I had just been driving it like a wussy boy.

As long as you give it fuel, its downright peppy. I wasnt fueling it enough enough to really get the RPMs and the boost up. Once the boost kicks in, it really moves out.

I've never really driven a turbo charged vehicle (just a few minutes in an Alpina B7) and the turbo-lag takes a little getting used to. Once you figure out the timing though, its great.

I'm much happier now.
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I could not find this on my dictionary!



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the turbo-lag takes a little getting used to. Once you figure out the timing though, its great.
I'm much happier now
It's a good ol' engine,isn't it?


And no electronic gizmos to worry about


Enjoy it.
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do the Tdi's have a blow off valve?
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