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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:41 AM
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is this legal to do?
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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:44 AM
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Sure is!
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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:51 AM
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Not really.

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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:52 AM
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Somebody ask rovertrader what it sold for!

I want.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 11:04 AM
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If you begin with an NAS 90 and modify the vehicle it is legal. States have different laws about inspections but it is legal.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 11:31 AM
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Read the thread on what is legal. 300Tdi is not EPA approved and there is not a single NAS D90 part on that thing. That is clear VIN swapping and is illegal.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 11:56 AM
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So every 300tdi swap in the US in a vehicle less than 25 years old is illegal?
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:01 PM
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From what I have read, as long as the motor is NEWER then the one you have, and it meets your local requirements (emissions etc) it is legal.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:02 PM
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So every 300tdi swap in the US in a vehicle less than 25 years old is illegal?
Technically, yes, illegal under federal law.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:46 PM
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"Technically" bringing a 300 Tdi across a US border is illegal, forget about what you put into.
The days of "its for a generator" or its for a "vintage car" on the EPA forms went away a few years back.

Who cares... if you go by the letter of the law nothing fun is legal.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:49 PM
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Ok, I stand corrected, it is illegal.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:51 PM
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Ok, I stand corrected, it is illegal.

In the scope of "illegal" it is a hell of a lot more legal than that same truck having a Series IIA VIN on it. I'd buy it and not think twice about it.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:56 PM
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When I took my 110 in for the salvage repaired inspection the Georgia boys asked me if it was a CKD after looking at my parts list. I about fell over backwards that they even knew what a CKD was. They looked at the drivers door pillar and saw the emissions stickers and were happy but if those stickers had not been there i would have had a lot of splainin to do.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Who cares... if you go by the letter of the law nothing fun is legal.
I sure don't, but I just want to make sure people know what is and is not legal and then they can make an informed choice about the risk.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 02:03 PM
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Same old, same old. First, that truck was sold- and shipped to- a fella in the Tahoe area who owns large tracts of land. And said vehicle was sold for "off road use only", which he intended to do, as well as run the Rubicon, etc. The reality here in NC until 2010 (grandfathered if done prior), is that ANY VEHICLE retrofitted with a diesel- any diesel- gets an automatic pass on emission inspections, and the title is so noted in Raleigh. What other states do- I have no idea. Also, when a salvage vehicle is purchased from out of state, it has to be inspected by the NC Highway Patrol before it can be inspected by the State Inspection offices to qualify for highway use. All that said, before a title is issued, and plates issued, it has been inspected at least twice, and usually thrice. As stated above, the Tdi is no more or less legal in a rebuilt 90 to 110 or 130 than in an original NAS truck(110 or 90)- period, at least here in NC. The bigger question for me is why the FBI or other Government bodies ( our employees) can drive whatever they want- on the streets on the USA, ie: '08 110 diesels? And while we are at it- what about conversions of hardtop to s/t, or vica-versa? The Feds and the individual States are not on the same page, or so it seems. Not to mention the entire car enthusiast market-dropping 501 big blocks in Camaros, etc. And lastly, even the '83 & '84 110 imports w/ Tdis are just as bad, since that engine didn't exist in that era either- in other words a retrofit as well. Not trying to rant, just enjoying my clattering smoking Rovers....
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Old February 13th, 2009, 02:15 PM
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Non EPA motor issues aside…

What I do not understand is that there are so many other makes / models of sought after cars that you can buy a new body and every part that you would need to build a new car out of an old burnt, rusted, crushed hulk of a car.

Yet somehow as soon as you try to rebuild a rover with new parts it is somehow shady, illegal or taboo?

New body shells for ford and GM cars
http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/gm_models.html

Purchase NEW 1957 Chevy (all they use is a 1957 cowl)
http://www.1957chevybody.com/body_options.html

How about the TLC Icon?
www.Icon4x4.com
from the FAQ “Each ICON starts life as a vintage Toyota Land Cruiser (1960-1978). We recycle the vintage vehicle and the original vehicle identification is maintained.”

So why do we rover people make it so hard on ourselves when there are so many other people out there having fun building / rebuilding their rides
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Old February 13th, 2009, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
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"Technically" bringing a 300 Tdi across a US border is illegal, forget about what you put into.
The days of "its for a generator" or its for a "vintage car" on the EPA forms went away a few years back.

Who cares... if you go by the letter of the law nothing fun is legal.
So I can forget about importing and installing a 2.8 into my NAS D110?
How would one go about it considering the current importation rules?
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Old February 13th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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But at the end of the day... why would you want a DC (double cab)....


they're really popular over here, but they're the worst of both worlds.... no seating room for the middle row of seats, and very little room in the "pick up" bed, plus stuff gets pinched, unless you have the canvas cover or the fiberglass lid, in which case you might as well have a full station wagon... at least you can then fit in "long" things or talk to your dogs, instead of shouthing through the rear rattly window at them! LOL!
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Old February 13th, 2009, 04:56 PM
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But at the end of the day... why would you want a DC (double cab)....
Human nature. We want what we can't get. (That, and they are really cool...)
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