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Old March 14th, 2013, 10:44 PM
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Suggestions needed on car audio

I can't decide if I want to have the dash cut up for the mud console to fit a double din alpine or use the Mud universal mounting Din kit and use the alpine headunit that does everything minus nav.
Should I save the dash or go with the Mud Console. It's for a 1995 90.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:02 PM
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Don't hack the dash. Not worth it.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:16 PM
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one of those modifications that you cant undo so I would get a tuffy box and just put a regular unit in there if you are not using a nav on the bigger screen a regular unit should be fine and you can lock it up for some security
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Old March 14th, 2013, 11:28 PM
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The Poineer 6300 is a touch screen that does not require a Double DIN and works well with the radio mount commonly found in ROW Defenders. I posted a picture a while ago in response to somebody's question if you want to look for it. I don't have a picture handy on the iPad right now.

I've been using the 6300 for about 6 months and think its the best solution for a single DIN center dash mount.

The only thing I would do differently is I would run a small center channel amp with small sub somewhere to overcome the cabin noise. Still, mine sounds great.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PIONEER-AVH-.../dp/B004S26BAO
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Old March 15th, 2013, 01:31 AM
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Do you listen to CD's or the radio? If you don't and only use MP3's (iPod/iPhone) I would go with the kicker pxi50.2. I'm using it in my 110. Small foot print amp, runs 2 speakers easily in the back and I can hear them just fine over the engine noise (200tdi) and road noise. Has a remote control unit that is hard wired and will charge your phone. I was able to extend the cables for the control unit and have the amp in the back next to its power source and the control unit up front. About $200 I think, might be $250.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:30 AM
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Worst picture ever, but it's an Alpine INAW910 in a MUDUK dash fitted to a 95 D90. Screen tilts for viewing. Some trimming of the plastic and metal to fit the bulk of the unit. Touch screen, fairly easy controls.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...type=3&theater

Alternatively, fit a radio to a Tuffy, learn the remote and one does not always have to look down to tune. Get creative and fit a small sub in an enclosure inside the Tuffy to get a little bass.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:41 AM
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one of those modifications that you cant undo so I would get a tuffy box and just put a regular unit in there if you are not using a nav on the bigger screen a regular unit should be fine and you can lock it up for some security

I second that... Installing a Tuffy is super easy + provides storage for items of value + an amp if needed.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 08:04 AM
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I had the same debate. The dash would be better but i did not want to commit to cutting into it. The tuffy is a tough location if you are changing stations or tracks often. Sort of hard to keep your head up. I solved that with the Ipod install and just make a bunch of play list and let it roll, if I want to change usually I just advance a track or two without taking my eyes off the road. I went with a marine sony set up just in case. I have two 100 w powered subs and 4 6 1/2, it really takes out the road noise all together. I like the marine grade so that if it does get caught out in a rain storm I should be ok.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 08:44 AM
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I know people who love the stereo location in the Tuffy with easy access (since your right arm in a LHD truck naturally sits right there anyway).

I have a few issues with the head unit being located there. First, I have a tendency to collect all sorts of random (junk-drawer) items in the tray area and within the center console itself. Somehow, I felt loose change, coffee spillover or whatever would make its way into the head unit following gravity.
Second and probably most importantly, the location in the Tuffy console is about six miles away from where your eyes need to be while driving. THat's fine if your head unit displays in braille, but if you've got to look down and take your eyes off the road to see a track or plug in your USB device. THird, the Tuffy console would never accomodate a touch screen or be an appropriate place for a nav screen.

I didn't think hacking up my dash for a MUD-UK console would be a heinous crime in my truck, but if you've got an NAS I wouldn't hack up the dash. Nonetheless, the simple under-mounted single DIN radio console that came with my truck and installed by the previous owner was already in there and I was only worried about the angle of the flip-open touch screen interfering with the dashpad. As it turns out, the 6300 touch screen stops perfectly at a 90 degree angle resting with its back on the upper dash pad adding support.

The installation is tight as there is not a lot of room at the rear of the housing for surplus wires and the pre-amp RCA plugs need to be tucked away. However, it fits and there are no loose wires seen anywhere. I did not install the sat-nav module which can be located remotely (I was thinking it would fit beneath the wiper motor becauise its small). I think the 6300 has 200 Watts among 4 channels, with 5 pre-amp connections. I did not use an amp because I wasn't installing a sub-woofer, but I did use high-quality 60Watt 5.25" round component speakers (Infinity) and it powers them fine. I could use a small sub-woofer off the center channel if I were going to be picky, but remember that no matter what stereo you install in a Defender that it will never sound great against all the wind noise (and diesel in my case).

Bottom line is that installing in a Tuffy would certainly be easier (with more room for wiring loom etc) but I wanted a touch screen NAV and I didn't want to constantly be picking dirt out of my head unit and looking away from the road so I opted for the dash location.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Another option if you've got a SW is to use the overhead console by Terrafirma sold by RN for under $200. That has two single DIN locations that would be pretty sweet for a drop-down screen though I thought it was going to be a little "busy" overhead with that storage unit, so I went a different route.
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Tuffy with a conventional head-unit with aux input.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 11:17 AM
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There are some very nice tablet mounts. That and a single din would be an ideal setup.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 11:19 AM
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Thanks guys! I am going to save my dash. Jackie - with you setup does it take away any of your view while driving? Looks like it may stick above the dash but under the wiper blades?
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Thanks guys! I am going to save my dash. Jackie - with you setup does it take away any of your view while driving? Looks like it may stick above the dash but under the wiper blades?
It looks like the most it could possibly obstruct view-wise would be a view of the top of your ash tray, depending on your height.
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It looks like the most it could possibly obstruct view-wise would be a view of the top of your ash tray, depending on your height.
No obstruction at all. It's right where you want it.
there is a button on the head unit that retracts the touch screen into its stored position if you don't want it "up", so that's not an issue at all.

I spoke to a lot of people (audio guys) about head units and the Pioneer 6300 is among the only single DIN head units with a touch screen that is any good.
there are tons of options for double DIN, but then you're going to need to go the MUD-UK center console route and cut your dash.
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No obstruction at all. It's right where you want it.
there is a button on the head unit that retracts the touch screen into its stored position if you don't want it "up", so that's not an issue at all.

I spoke to a lot of people (audio guys) about head units and the Pioneer 6300 is among the only single DIN head units with a touch screen that is any good.
there are tons of options for double DIN, but then you're going to need to go the MUD-UK center console route and cut your dash.
looking at the 7500 for the iPhone 5 support. i hope the flip will extend similar to your 6300 http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rs/AVH-X7500BT
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I am staying single din, bt and ipod....and going to a dedicated nav unit. The one I liked the most was the JVC with a triple line lcd. Two phones at the same time.., full ipod/iphone, about 180 bucks. USB on the front.

For movies....the people that matter are in the back and ipad's seem the way to go these days...the upcoming overland mapping software for ipad makes that a good option too...so I am staying with a JVC single din head unit. I figure I can always upgrade.

The mechanical lcd screen devices make me a little nervous in terms of breakage/reliability. Dirt would not likely go well with one of those. And I plan to use the truck the way it was meant to be used. They just look and feel fragile.

N.B.: BT audio allows me to stream pandora to the radio if I have it. My iphone 5 has unlimitted data..so not a big deal. In the end, I wanted to keep the truck as simple as possible and have the technology stuff easy to upgrade...in 3 years with an iphone 7 they'll probably have 1 tb of ram, all the off road maps, yada yada....the dash just needs power and perhaps speakers/microphone.




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Old March 15th, 2013, 03:54 PM
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looking at the 7500 for the iPhone 5 support. i hope the flip will extend similar to your 6300 http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rs/AVH-X7500BT
I bet it is the exact same mechanical package, just with newer software to support iPhone 5 and maybe some other integration.

Although fully functional with the iPhone/iPad, Pioneer was smart enough (or douchy enough) to not allow the exact iPhone display because otherwise you could simply use Apple's GPS and maps for NAV and you'd never buy the $400 GPS add-on from Pioneer. But it does download all your phone contacts and music.
I think the best part is it is Pandora enabled which is what I've been using mostly. I think it is also XM enabled as well, you just have to buy the antenna.
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There is also the headliner option - lasalle trim has the radio/speaker option for most headliner versions. Assumes a hard top of course...
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Something that came in the mail today.... I have nothing to do with this company.

They live on this stuff....so I suspect they are on the money here (literally)...

I for one think a far more powerful option is the adaptable iPad. Just look at this stuff:

http://tlcfaq.com/main/2012/08/ipad-...gation-system/
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