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Old January 30th, 2016, 02:03 PM
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Suggestions for new DD

I'm replacing my Jeep Grand Cherokee and need a new reliable DD.

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I have to park this car outside at home due to constraints with garages built in the 1930s, so I either want a used car or lease. I have two small kids.

What I like - SUV or wagon

Wagon - The S4 avant 6-speed or 2003 540 wagon are probably my ideal car (we're in the tree of trust right?). I prefer the new 3 series wagon to 5 series.

I like the VW Golf wagon but doesn't have AWD. The new Allroad is too feminine.

SUV - On the SUV side, I best like the Toureg look but the pricing makes no sense, and I like the new Mercedes GLE. Also like the look of the Volvo V60 cross country but hate my wife's Volvo XC90 - always in shop and zero performance.

I like the look and feel of the LR4 but miles per gallon seems like a joke and it's priced for status unfortunately.

Would I be crazy to buy a 2010 Range Rover Sport with like 50k miles or an older LR3 with 100k miles cheaply?

Help please
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Old January 30th, 2016, 02:17 PM
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My wife has a 328xi wagon, 2011 (e91) with the 3.0 straight 6, awd, and 6 speed manual transmission. The car will haul ass, and in 117k miles, we have had zero unexpected repairs or surprises. The car drives incredibly well, but it maybe has 4" of ground clearance. As soon as the pot holes, snow ruts, and city crud arrive, we switch her over to an SUV. This was the last model of the wagon with a 6 speed MT. Makes it a blast to drive.

We had a xc60 r design with the polestar chip. At 325hp, t6, the car was incredibly fast and handled well. We had it as a CPO, and we had 4 repeated repairs for the city safety and collision warning system. Volvo ended up buying the vehicle back. I would never own a Volvo without a warranty.

LR3, RRS, RR - they tank in value; I would be hesitant to own them without a factory warranty. Many bells and whistles.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 02:37 PM
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My DD is a 05 Pilot. Just normal service with one exception. Radiators on 05 had higher failure rates so I replaced that pre failure at 130k miles. Now about to hit 214k and will be doing our annual drive to SC and back next month.
Did the auto show routine earlier this month. Only SUVs that worked for me were Santa Fe, Traverse and Sorrento. Haven't driven any of them but bet they are quieter ride better better mpg yada yada
Was expecting to like Outback but something about it just didn't work for me.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 03:02 PM
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Buy a low Mileage current grand Cherokee and call it a day
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Old January 30th, 2016, 04:02 PM
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My DD is a 05 Pilot. Just normal service with one exception. Radiators on 05 had higher failure rates so I replaced that pre failure at 130k miles. Now about to hit 214k and will be doing our annual drive to SC and back next month. Did the auto show routine earlier this month. Only SUVs that worked for me were Santa Fe, Traverse and Sorrento. Haven't driven any of them but bet they are quieter ride better better mpg yada yada Was expecting to like Outback but something about it just didn't work for me.
I just went to Honda and the new Pilot is too big and the CRV is... well a CRV.

Maybe a Subaru Outback with some steelies.
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i see the Audi References. Did you look at the Q3? We have one. Fun to drive and not huge.
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Buy a low Mileage current grand Cherokee and call it a day
Probably the best advice.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 04:18 PM
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i see the Audi References. Did you look at the Q3? We have one. Fun to drive and not huge.
Yes and probably would go with a new A3 sport back if it were out in TDI but only the eTron which is a mess. I sat in one. It's fun.
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I'm not sure how you are entertaining anything other than a full sized suv with 2 'little kids' they grow up and have more crap. Presuming you are hauling them around. My sportwagen is filled when the girlfriend and I spend 4 days somewhere. Mind you that's mostly her stuff but the only good daily driver SUV I ever had was a grand Cherokee. A wagon isn't going to cut it

Mind you that was mostly due to the cost for parts/repairs and the generally reliability of that platform
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Have you checked out a BMW X1? They're like a sporty/outdoorsy wagon, kinda like a Subaru Outback, but way classier and more fun to drive. The turbo 4-cylinder actually has some good punch to it and it's great on gas. I'm talking about the 2015 and older one though. They switched to a front wheel drive Mini platform for 2016 and I hear it's pretty lame. Also the previous gen X3 was available with a 6-speed manual. They're super rare but they're out there. The 540i wagon would be awful on gas, but you could find one for cheap. You can search for pre-owned BMWs here: http://cpo.bmwusa.com/
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Old January 31st, 2016, 02:53 AM
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It's not a wagon or suv, but I look forward to driving my 335d daily. I think they made/make a wagon. Twin turbo and I think it's around 425 ft lbs of torque and still gets me 29mpg.
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The 335d was sedan only, but they make a 328d wagon.
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Old January 31st, 2016, 03:16 AM
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If I had my choice of a new BMW I'd get the X5 xDrive40e. For little trips around town you could just use electric.
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The LR3's have already tanked in value; so you get a lot of vehicle for your dollar. The major issues with them are very well known now and the consumeables are all capable of being replaced by an average mechanic. By and large their reliability is light years beyond coil sprung predecessors. The electrical gremlins of a laptop on wheels necessitates an IID tool or equivalent if one self maintains.

Of course if you don't want to wrench on it and would prefer a dealer serviced vehicle, I wouldn't suggest it. I'd still suggest test driving one, they aren't sporty but they are damn nice for driving day to day.
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Too bad the S500 you showed up in was not 4 matic.
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Old January 31st, 2016, 06:52 AM
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I just went to Honda and the new Pilot is too big and the CRV is... well a CRV. Maybe a Subaru Outback with some steelies.
I hear you on size. They keep growing. CRV and all the Escape etc types are just too vanilla. The Audi q3 and 5 plus Acura RDX should be up on your list. Thought the RDX I think is a crv pumped up with Honda''s v6, it felt very different to its vanilla sibling.

Shame I can't get wife out if Volvos.
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Too bad the S500 you showed up in was not 4 matic.
Yes nightmare in the snow and I'm not 65, so...

Hope to be closing a deal in DE so I will be stopping by!
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X2 Kids grow and need to bring friends/crap. Re gas mileage, how many miles do you drive and does the differential in fuel cost really move the needle? IME I would really have to be cranking out the miles before it would be worth driving a tiny crossover. Space and utility are just higher on the want list for me.

My vote is a well cared for LR3 regardless of mileage.
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