state tax sucks - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old November 4th, 2010, 02:05 PM
atpick's Avatar
atpick
Status: Offline
Andy
1990 110
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 290
Registry
state tax sucks

Hello, first post here. Just got back for an assignment in Germany with my 84' 110 in tow. Now stationed in Arkansas and go to register/title (which is not problem), but they are requiring me to pay sales tax before they'll give me my tags and title. Seriously, sales tax for something I purchased in another country! Anyone know a way around this?

Cheers,
Andy
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old November 4th, 2010, 02:17 PM
rijosho's Avatar
rijosho
Status: Offline
Joshua
1995 Black ST - Rhinolined edition
Research Assistant/Eagle Eyes
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,557
Registry
Check your state's vehicle tax exemptions, and call your state's tax dept. Should be fairly straightforward.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old November 4th, 2010, 03:07 PM
bjf's Avatar
bjf
Status: Offline
barry f
94 ST #395
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: los angeles
Posts: 10,969
My sure you can avoid it but with the military there might be exemptions.

It's an 84. Receipt for three dollars
__________________
Quote:
Are there shocks that I can addjust up and down like my friends LX460? That would be very cool!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old November 4th, 2010, 03:31 PM
ECR's Avatar
ECR
Status: Offline
East Coast Rover Co.
Just Defenders, nothing else.
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rockland, ME, USA
Posts: 4,614
In Maine you either prove that you already paid the sales tax, or you get to pay it again. No exceptions.
If you paid VAT when you bought the truck overseas, you could likely prove that was the "tax" already paid.
__________________
Email:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I do not check PMs. Call or email if you need something.

ECR is not a parts source. We are not in the mail order business.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old November 4th, 2010, 03:45 PM
gas-man's Avatar
gas-man
Status: Offline
Robert/Mazzarella
97/D90 ST: Sold
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Posts: 131
14 years in the Navy and having lived in 2 countries and 6 states owning 25 different vehicles during that time... I have paid my share of sales tax. Haven't found a way around it. I have been fortunate however to avoid paying personal property tax as most states waive that for active duty military on orders. Since sales tax is a percentage of the sale price, I recommend you provide DMV with a bill of sale with a dollar value that yields a friendly sales tax amount you can part with.
__________________
Navy. It's not just a job, it's a job on a ship.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old November 4th, 2010, 04:05 PM
atpick's Avatar
atpick
Status: Offline
Andy
1990 110
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 290
Registry
Maybe I can gift it to my wife, then have her re-gift it back to me for nothing....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old November 4th, 2010, 04:25 PM
discotdi
Status: Offline
Todd Miller
Land Rover
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fairburn, GA USA
Posts: 1,029
doubt it, you would still be responsible for the taxes before you gifted it. Go the VAT route or a bill of sale with a very low sales price.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old November 4th, 2010, 04:34 PM
hillstrubl's Avatar
hillstrubl
Status: Offline
Danny
2005 Disco 3
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philly, USA
Posts: 1,596
DC demands tax based on book value (or "agreed value" if its not in their book, which an imported grey market vehicle wouldn't). We agreed on a value of $1500 for the tax amount to be assessed.

maybe you can find something in their state code wording that is similar. I had pictures showing that it had some rust, was a 25+ year old truck, fading paint and 185K on the odo... to prove my case.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=25835
__________________
~2005 Disco 3 "Moneypenny"
~2008 GTI TSI
~If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a Veteran.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old November 4th, 2010, 05:11 PM
atpick's Avatar
atpick
Status: Offline
Andy
1990 110
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 290
Registry
yeah, I've tried looking around on google for "Arkansas sales tax code" and of course nothing. They want me to pay tax on the converted Euro price I paid in Europe which could cost me more than I want to pay...uggghh
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old November 4th, 2010, 05:55 PM
grnrvrs's Avatar
grnrvrs
Status: Offline
Paul
88
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: west
Posts: 1,393
You paid VAT, right? Did you have it registered in Europe? If not, then man up and pay your dues.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old November 4th, 2010, 06:03 PM
atpick's Avatar
atpick
Status: Offline
Andy
1990 110
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 290
Registry
Nah, did't pay VAT, benefit of being stationed overseas, Roger that, guess I have no choice
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old November 4th, 2010, 06:08 PM
NoVaKevin
Status: Offline
Kevin
sold#1469
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 444
Having worked at a big4 firm in a prior life in their stat tax department, I still laugh at all the clients that paid us 250-800/hr to tell them that it depends on the state. And, it would be another 4 hours of work to give a definitive answer.

You probably will need to pay, but its worth doing some research.

------ Follow up post added November 4th, 2010 06:12 PM ------

Virginia DMV/Code Section 58.1-2403(10) says this...

If you are titling your vehicle in Virginia for the first time and you hold a valid assignable title or registration issued in your name by another state or a branch of the United States Armed Forces, you will not have to pay the Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax. However, if you purchased the vehicle within the preceding 12 months, you must provide proof that the sales and use tax was paid elsewhere in order to be exempt in Virginia.

Guess it would depend on your definition of a "state" or if the Army assigned the title.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old November 4th, 2010, 06:34 PM
hillstrubl's Avatar
hillstrubl
Status: Offline
Danny
2005 Disco 3
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philly, USA
Posts: 1,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoVaKevin View Post
Having worked at a big4 firm in a prior life in their stat tax department, I still laugh at all the clients that paid us 250-800/hr to tell them that it depends on the state. And, it would be another 4 hours of work to give a definitive answer.

You probably will need to pay, but its worth doing some research.

------ Follow up post added November 4th, 2010 06:12 PM ------

Virginia DMV/Code Section 58.1-2403(10) says this...

If you are titling your vehicle in Virginia for the first time and you hold a valid assignable title or registration issued in your name by another state or a branch of the United States Armed Forces, you will not have to pay the Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax. However, if you purchased the vehicle within the preceding 12 months, you must provide proof that the sales and use tax was paid elsewhere in order to be exempt in Virginia.

Guess it would depend on your definition of a "state" or if the Army assigned the title.
i agree, I'd look into it a bit further (or try more than once...)
__________________
~2005 Disco 3 "Moneypenny"
~2008 GTI TSI
~If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a Veteran.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old November 4th, 2010, 06:50 PM
NoVaKevin
Status: Offline
Kevin
sold#1469
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 444
You can always pay the tax, and do research, and apply for a refund later if you find something. It could be more than its worth, but state laws on taxes are generally ignorant of international issues (i.e. moving a car here from overseas and tax implications). And, considering the economic climate, states are inclined to reject refunds unless the are very well written and carefully worded.

VAT is not a sales tax. But, the two-toothed, bud heavy drinking, jort wearing redneck at the DFA/DMV in Arkansas, can probably be persuaded otherwise.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old November 4th, 2010, 07:11 PM
atpick's Avatar
atpick
Status: Offline
Andy
1990 110
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 290
Registry
hahaha, its funny because when she looked at the bill of sale she said (in a very think accent), "that's in their money right?"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wow... this sucks mattwhite Defender Technical Discussions 13 October 22nd, 2004 11:39 PM
bald eagle state park in Pa? Campbell Defender Technical Discussions 0 August 24th, 2004 11:36 AM
OTR - Savoy Mountain State Forest - Massachusetts USA chrisvonc Trip & Trail Reports 0 June 18th, 2004 02:49 PM
Insurance sucks Buckon37s Misc. Chit-Chat 8 June 2nd, 2004 08:13 PM
T. Hilfigers 110 up for sale on Tax day kai Misc. Chit-Chat 1 April 17th, 2004 01:13 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:28 AM.


Copyright