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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:23 AM
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Sporty daily driver (Car)

I am looking for a new daily driver and kind of have an urge to get something that is small, sporty and fun to drive as a compliment to my 90.

Requirements
Priced under 40K the lower the better.
New or really low miles
Must be FWD or AWD
Reliable
Reasonable maintenance costs
Decent gas mileage
Have to be able to acquire one in the next month or so

So far I am going to look at the following and would like to hear any thoughts as well as recommendations for cars that I might have missed. I admit I am not on top of the small sporty car market since I have only had rovers for the last 15 years and a company car.

2015 Subaru WRX
New body and new motor 2.0 4 cyl, not sure how the new motor will hold up over time or how much power you will be able to wring out of it safely? From what I have read it is a great car with plenty of power for a DD.
2015 Subaru WRX STI
New body with old school boxer motor that is tried and true able to produce plenty of power. Most complaints I have heard are people saying it rides too harsh for a DD and that it is too expensive. I like the fact that it still have the proven 2.5.

Volkswagen GTI
Driven them and they are fun just concerned about long term quality

Mitsubishi lancer EVO
Last year they are making them in the US seem to have a great following but I have never driven one or even been in one.

2 door Mini
Never driven one they look nice but worried about quality and cost of ownership
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:28 AM
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WRX. The 2.0 has been used since 2008 overseas so nothing to wring out. STi needs rubber every 8k to 10k and brakes shortly thereafter so it is a fun car not a daily. The wrx is easy to maintain and actually faster to 60 than the sti.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:31 AM
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I had a Mini Clubman S that was out of warranty and it knew it. Fun car but unless its on a 100% bumper to bumper no deductible warranty it's a no. But I guess that applies to anything.

I think if you are shopping WRX STIs the GTI is going to look bland. Its a fun car, but like the mini, it doesn't have the real performance cred of the WRX or Evo. I like the Evo MRs (with warranty).
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:39 AM
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A few others you may want to at least look at:

Ford Fiesta ST (2014 Ford Fiesta ST - EPautos)
Fiat 500 Abarth (2013 Fiat 500 Abarth - EPautos)
Scion tC (2014 Scion tC - EPautos)
VW Beetle R-Line Turbo (2014 VW Beetle R-Line Turbo - EPautos)
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:46 AM
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I've owned a Mini Countyman, STi (520 hp), and currently have a 996 turbo. The countryman was by far the most fun.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:47 AM
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Ford Focus or Feista ST.

To bad the new Focus RS isn't stateside yet.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 11:00 AM
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I don't know if you're only considering new, but the 997 911 (avoid the 95's) 1996 and on, in 4s guise is a pretty solid car.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 11:06 AM
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I forgot about the TC always kind of liked them will have to do some more research.

Fiesta it is getting a bunch of hype.... I just do not know if I could actually buy or own something with the fiesta name. Not looking for a status symbol and not a mine is better than yours kind of guy but thinking of owning a fiesta makes me sad inside for some reason. I guess I should drive one and see how it goes before I judge it by the name.

Focus never thought about one I have an escape right now for my company car and it is ok. Again not a car I would aspire to own but seems like car companies are coming up with some interesting options.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 11:07 AM
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I've enjoyed my 2013 TDi golf. It's a blast to drive and easy to hit 50mpg. A quick ecu update and you're looking at gobs of torque.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 11:44 AM
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I've enjoyed my 2013 TDi golf. It's a blast to drive and easy to hit 50mpg. A quick ecu update and you're looking at gobs of torque.
mind as well go for broke and get the ultimate golf....
Audi TT 3 2L | eBay

I mean the audi TT AWD with the 3.2 mind as well be a r32 in terms of power and weight, most likely share the same AWD platform.

maintenance is usually good till around 100K (minus a timing belt service). best to flip them before you hit 130K
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Old February 27th, 2015, 12:27 PM
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I don't know if you're only considering new, but the 997 911 (avoid the 95's) 1996 and on, in 4s guise is a pretty solid car.
96 would be a 993. Good luck finding one of those in the price range that is in decent shape. 997 started in 2005 iirc, with Turbo and AWD versions coming out later. 996 Turbos currently sell in the $40k range (that's what I'm listing mine for), but I wouldn't want a 911 as a daily driver in CO. One look out the window today to see why. Even with AWD, it would be a pita.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 12:32 PM
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TT is out my Sister and Cousin both had them and they were major money pits with a bunch of issues (hence my distrust for the GTI despite lust for one.... something about the plaid seats)

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Had no idea on the Porsche just figured they would be above my price range, thirsty and expensive to fix. I am guessing the maintenance and insurance might be rough but will look into it.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 12:38 PM
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Damn, it must be Friday. Yes, I meant avoid '05s but start with '06. A decade late...

And yes, air-cooled Porsche's are going nuts in value right now. I had an opportunity to buy a 964 convertible with 50k miles for $14K in 2006 and I did not pull the trigger. What a dumb ass I am.

I did see your listing and thought about it for awhile until my wallet reminded me that I cannot afford it this time. I'm sure it was an awesome car. I did see one this morning and the fried egg headlights are growing on me. That rear-end is S E X Y!

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96 would be a 993. Good luck finding one of those in the price range that is in decent shape. 997 started in 2005 iirc, with Turbo and AWD versions coming out later. 996 Turbos currently sell in the $40k range (that's what I'm listing mine for), but I wouldn't want a 911 as a daily driver in CO. One look out the window today to see why. Even with AWD, it would be a pita.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 12:55 PM
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Mazda3 is a solid car. Ive wanted a Mazdaspeed3 for some time. Rumor is that the next generation (2017-18 debut) will be AWD. The current one is no slouch though.
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TT is out my Sister and Cousin both had them and they were major money pits with a bunch of issues (hence my distrust for the GTI despite lust for one.... something about the plaid seats)

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Had no idea on the Porsche just figured they would be above my price range, thirsty and expensive to fix. I am guessing the maintenance and insurance might be rough but will look into it.
Insurance isn't too bad for me. $750/year. Registration in CO for mine is about $85/year due to age. Maintenance is where things get interesting. Oil changes on the turbo is very easy, as long as you can get it in the air (low-profile jack is a must). The 996 Turbo motor does not suffer the same catastrophic issues as the na motors of the early 996. There are stories of 200k cars out there. Engine has been very solid in mine for the 4 years I've owned it. I've had some suspension issues due to previous owner lowering it too far. Since that has been corrected, the car is fantastic. My wife doesn't want me to sell it, but I need space in the garage for my 110.

For the same money as a new STi, you can own a 911 Turbo with more power, better looks, better handling, and much higher 'valet appeal.' Plus, values have bottomed out. Chances are you'll be able to sell it for $30-$35k in 5 years as opposed to $15k for a 5-year-old Subie.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 01:08 PM
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Love my Mini S supercharged 6 speed. It will do 90 in 3rd noooo problem! Has been dependable. Except for a sticky window motor fairly trouble free. Its now got around 136k on the clock. So far so good...
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Mazda3 is a solid car. Ive wanted a Mazdaspeed3 for some time. Rumor is that the next generation (2017-18 debut) will be AWD. The current one is no slouch though.
I have a friend who owns one of these, it is seriously fun to drive
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