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Old August 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM
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Does anyone know the story behind these Land Rovers the Spanish Army is using in Afghanistan? Were they built in Spain?
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Old August 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM
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They are Santana's. I think at one point they were built using Land Rover parts but I am not sure how much is still shared now. As for being built in Spain, that would be a yes, at least as far as I know. Someone please chime in if I have mis-spoken on anything.

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Old August 24th, 2009, 04:50 PM
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Isn't that the Santana? I believe that it is a Rover design, built in Spain.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_Motors
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Old August 24th, 2009, 05:16 PM
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That's a Santana SP10, no longer anything to do with LR (Apart from having a similar silouette)

has an Iveco 2.5/2.8 engine (diesel) and leaf springs.

the last proper LR related santana was the series IIIB back in the 80's
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Old August 24th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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I thought that Spain only had the Spanish Inquisition.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 05:49 PM
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I remember when they had the "Short Line" Santana at the Geneva auto show and thinking it looked pretty awesome. The Iveco Massif lights are a little more aggressive than the Santana IMO, but the front bumper ruins it.
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Here's another pic.
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that looks like some pretty poor driving, unless he is avoiding a land mine or something!
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That's a Santana SP10
PS10.
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I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those in Afghanistan (literally). While perfect for the terrain, little to no armor makes them coffins on wheels with the IED threat. Event he new MRAPs are having a hard time coping with the threat.

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I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those in Afghanistan (literally). While perfect for the terrain, little to no armor makes them coffins on wheels with the IED threat. Event he new MRAPs are having a hard time coping with the threat.
Well, a quick check of the casualty list shows two deaths from one IED attack on Spanish forces in the last 4 years, so they must be operating them in a permissive environment.
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Back on topic, they made a 6 cylinder version of the old LR 2.25 petrol and diesel that simply added 2 more cylinders to the straight 4. Consequently the the Late Santana series III gearboxes and transmissions were beefed up to the handle the incresed HP and torque. I use one of these late gearboxes as the Daihatsu 2.8 TD is rated at almost identical numbers to the Santana motor. Their concept was pretty smart as the 6 cylinders shared almost all of the parts with the 4's, just a longer cam and block. You can recognize a Santana gearbox or transfer case by the external ribbing of the case.
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wow that t box sure is clean
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Old August 25th, 2009, 01:19 PM
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That was right after installation, it was a NOS unit that I got from TLR.
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Back on topic, they made a 6 cylinder version of the old LR 2.25 petrol and diesel that simply added 2 more cylinders to the straight 4. Consequently the the Late Santana series III gearboxes and transmissions were beefed up to the handle the incresed HP and torque. I use one of these late gearboxes as the Daihatsu 2.8 TD is rated at almost identical numbers to the Santana motor. Their concept was pretty smart as the 6 cylinders shared almost all of the parts with the 4's, just a longer cam and block. You can recognize a Santana gearbox or transfer case by the external ribbing of the case.
The "series 3 santana" also had a disc braked front axle.

Ideal swap for normal series owners who don't want to get the zeus/rocky road (or whoever else does them) conversion kits.
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I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those in Afghanistan (literally). While perfect for the terrain, little to no armor makes them coffins on wheels with the IED threat. Event he new MRAPs are having a hard time coping with the threat.

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Well, a quick check of the casualty list shows two deaths from one IED attack on Spanish forces in the last 4 years, so they must be operating them in a permissive environment.
It sounds good, untill you realise that they only have 4 soldiers over there.
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