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Old February 9th, 2015, 06:25 PM
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Someone Bought My RRC and Wants to Sue?

Edit: non-binding opinion told me to not post publicly. Probably wise.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 06:38 PM
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It will depend on the state laws. Some have strong "lemon" laws to protect the consumer. Even if you sell it as-is, where-is.
If you have in writing a waiver from the buyer that will bolster your case, however I would prepare to take the vehicle back or give up some moolah.
Best bet is to consult an attorney who is familiar with this sort of thing.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 06:42 PM
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The type of person who buys an RRC with a loan sounds like a scammer to me.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:24 PM
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:29 PM
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Did it have an Oldsmobile 350 under the hood with NOS?

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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:30 PM
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Edit: based on a non-binding legal opinion. I shouldn't be posting any more information here.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:39 PM
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You need to consult an attorney IN YOUR STATE, or in your case your republik.
Laws in my state would in fact favor the buyer in this case based on what you said (as ludicrous as it sounds) which I beleive was/is a concession to the dealership associations because it is an incentive for folks to never trade/sell privately for this very reason.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:39 PM
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I use sea foam in everything I own. I can't see how it would cause any knocking that wasn't there to start with. It's really just an octane booster/ stabilizer that is supposed to do a bunch of other wondrous things.

A tech at the dealership told me to use it on my first rover 10 or 12 years ago to help keep the carbon sludge from building up on the valves in the 4.0.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:41 PM
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Edit: based on a non-binding legal opinion. I shouldn't be posting any more information here.
I was thinking the same exact thing.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:55 PM
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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:56 PM
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Every state is different.
In VA, the theme is buyer beware and the rule is that if someone buys a vehicle site unseen without having it inspected that when the money changes hands, the buyer owns the vehicle end of story... with no recourse.

I guess any lawyer can tie up your resources with court actions as a leverage to pressure you to "see it their way".
The difference between you and I is that when we make a mistake, say on a purchase, then we deal with it ourselves.
But other people like a self obsessed lawyer (unlike a forthright lawyer) will manipulate the legal system to get what they want.

My step father was a radiologist and when he was chief of staff years ago one of the local ruthless law suit lawyers who had represented patients for medical malpractice suits brought his pregnant wife to the emergency room.
Before my dad would read any of the pre-admission films, he called in the hospital attorney who had both the wife and sue happy attorney husband sign paperwork saying we will treat you, but are not responsible for any medical malpractice.
When the husband protested, my dad told him, he could sign or take his wife elsewhere.
Sometimes these things have to happen.

You might be better off taking the vehicle back and refund the sue happy lawyers money and moving on.
The stress relief alone may be more than worth it... life really is too short to have to go to court multiple times and pay for legal representation even if the buyer looses his court case.
I am very very sorry you are having to deal with this.
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The worst part of Seafoam are the instructions to add it to the crankcase oil. To put anything but oil in the crankcase seems foolhardy to me.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:14 PM
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Start by ignoring him.
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I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:20 PM
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Start by ignoring him.
This is actually fair advice... I cant see the original details posted because they have (smartly) been redacted, but based on the info I can read, I would say that if the vehicle was purchased with a loan, that would indicate there is likely minimal capital there to secure a lawyer for a lawsuit.

I'd get your ducks in a row but wait for the buyer to force the issue rather than making empty threats.

That is of course, assuming he is the one in the wrong here and that you didnt actually rip him off (like I said, cant see the original story so cant say either way).
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:25 PM
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Two things.
1. Normally when I sell a car I fill out a standard bill of sale that the vehicle is sold as is with no warranty expressed or implied. Not sure it is legally binding but I do it.
2. Why not just give the idiot his money back and take the truck back. I would not want to eat shipping but I think the offer of the money back when the truck is returned in the condition it left pretty much ends the case.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:30 PM
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What Adam or Barry said. Take the high road or no road but either way I doubt he will actually sue you.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:37 PM
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So, can we get a "hypothetical run" down from someone who can "speculate" what happened, without goofing Brody up, on a new thread entitled "Hypothetically Speaking" or something along those lines?
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So, can we get a "hypothetical run" down from someone who can "speculate" what happened, without goofing Brody up, on a new thread entitled "Hypothetically Speaking" or something along those lines?
I guess you didn't see his original, pre-edited post.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:19 PM
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Open question.
Who sells a 20+ year old vehicle with any reps or warrants ? I would think any vehicle of that age is sold as is where is.
While I have no idea what the condition of the truck was or what the sales price was, I think this boils down to what the bill of sale said. Since financing was used I'd assume the financing entity had basic language they were looking for before splashing out a check to the seller.
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