Sell, fix, or find help - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old July 28th, 2014, 04:56 PM
byrnecc's Avatar
byrnecc
Status: Offline
Conor
1986 ex-mod 110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Howard County, MD
Posts: 293
Registry
Sell, fix, or find help

So my electrical nightmare got worse. I just got off the phone with a very reputable shop in the area and they said to fix the issue that my 110 had (toasted harness) they would need to replace all the harnessing or the problem would repeat. For what they quoted, I can't afford their work (75hrs plus genuine parts).

I'm obviously not going to make money off the sale, if I do sell, but I'd be happy to slim my losses.

If anyone would be willing to replace the whole harness for something more affordable I'd gladly entertain that option too.

I love the truck and I hope I don't have to sell but if I could get the forum's opinion on this I'd appreciate it. Not a great way to start the week.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:01 PM
evilfij's Avatar
evilfij
Status: Offline
evilfij
I have never seen a rover in person
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on the internet
Posts: 14,688
75 hours!!!!!!!!

That is insane.
__________________
*not legal advice*
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:03 PM
tjfslaughter's Avatar
tjfslaughter
Status: Online
thomas
Burbon
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NorthEast
Posts: 4,563
Quote:
Originally Posted by byrnecc View Post
So my electrical nightmare got worse. I just got off the phone with a very reputable shop in the area and they said to fix the issue that my 110 had (toasted harness) they would need to replace all the harnessing or the problem would repeat. For what they quoted, I can't afford their work (75hrs plus genuine parts). I'm obviously not going to make money off the sale, if I do sell, but I'd be happy to slim my losses. If anyone would be willing to replace the whole harness for something more affordable I'd gladly entertain that option too. I love the truck and I hope I don't have to sell but if I could get the forum's opinion on this I'd appreciate it. Not a great way to start the week.

Give the Maryland guys a call. I think Doug could provide some reliable advice. 75 hours seems like a lot.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:04 PM
byrnecc's Avatar
byrnecc
Status: Offline
Conor
1986 ex-mod 110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Howard County, MD
Posts: 293
Registry
Insane indeed, they said all the harnesses which I assume means engine harness, main, and rear? I'm really hoping someone from the forum in the area is looking for some extra dough and likes to do wiring because I just can't afford to have a shop do this I don't think...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:24 PM
The Dro
Status: Offline
Dro
1988 Ninety
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 6,690
Registry
The main harness is about $650.

http://www.autosparks.co.uk/product_...v2rnerndv4k5k4
__________________
Mine is NTO... It was new, Now I'm Taking it Off.
Quote:
Online speculation will not replace onsite inspection.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:28 PM
byrnecc's Avatar
byrnecc
Status: Offline
Conor
1986 ex-mod 110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Howard County, MD
Posts: 293
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dro View Post
Thanks Pedro. That got pointed out to me in a different thread but I don't know how to go about installing it. I'd definitely be willing to help (and pay) anyone to install it but I know I'm not capable of just ordering it and installing myself.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:38 PM
The Dro
Status: Offline
Dro
1988 Ninety
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 6,690
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by byrnecc View Post

Thanks Pedro. That got pointed out to me in a different thread but I don't know how to go about installing it. I'd definitely be willing to help (and pay) anyone to install it but I know I'm not capable of just ordering it and installing myself.
Conor,

It's not that complicated.

Contact carlosz here in the Forum. He is a Rover tech and can probably help you.

P
__________________
Mine is NTO... It was new, Now I'm Taking it Off.
Quote:
Online speculation will not replace onsite inspection.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old July 28th, 2014, 05:50 PM
byrnecc's Avatar
byrnecc
Status: Offline
Conor
1986 ex-mod 110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Howard County, MD
Posts: 293
Registry
Sent out some messages. Hope this works out and I don't have to ditch it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:14 PM
The Dro
Status: Offline
Dro
1988 Ninety
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 6,690
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by byrnecc View Post
Sent out some messages. Hope this works out and I don't have to ditch it.
Dood!

Don't get discouraged.

Wiring is not that bad.
__________________
Mine is NTO... It was new, Now I'm Taking it Off.
Quote:
Online speculation will not replace onsite inspection.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:19 PM
cgalpin's Avatar
cgalpin
Status: Offline
Charles Galpin
'94 D90 ST, '63 SeriesIIA
Site Team
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: South Riding, VA
Posts: 11,625
Registry
Can you remind us what exactly got fried?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pendy
I'm here for the D's
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:24 PM
Jpayne's Avatar
Jpayne
Status: Offline
Jeff Payne
'83 110 3 Door
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 1,393
Registry
Take that quote to your insurance company.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:28 PM
byrnecc's Avatar
byrnecc
Status: Offline
Conor
1986 ex-mod 110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Howard County, MD
Posts: 293
Registry
Sure, from what I could tell the wiring from the ignition barrel to the glow plugs and from ignition barrel to the starter were the ones generating the most heat. I started it, it ran for maybe 15 seconds, the engine then shutoff, and then I heard some electrical type of whine which I'm guessing was the starter which stayed on. I popped the hood, saw what looked like all of the engine harness on the bulkhead side glowing orange and smoking. I disconnected the battery and saw some melted wires behind the instrument cluster and behind the fuse box. Then I got it towed to a shop so I didn't see how extensive the damage was. Over the course of several, I was experiencing different electrical issues throughout the truck, gauge lights were inconsistent, bad grounds here and there, bad readings on the temp gauge, indicators not working... But to answer your question, I know the engine harness and main harness both fried but not sure how extensively.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:33 PM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Offline
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,836
Registry
If you saw the harness's glowing red and then had time to un hook the battery they are fried . So you will need a main and an engine harness min. I'd suggest one with blade type fuses. I'd also plan on a new ignition switch, glow plug relay and who knows what else.
I wouldn't even try to mend what you describe. Responded to your pm.
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:42 PM
ECR's Avatar
ECR
Status: Offline
East Coast Rover Co.
Just Defenders, nothing else.
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rockland, ME, USA
Posts: 4,614
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilfij View Post
75 hours!!!!!!!!

That is insane.
Agreed. That is way more than double what it would take worst case.
__________________
Email:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I do not check PMs. Call or email if you need something.

ECR is not a parts source. We are not in the mail order business.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old July 28th, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jymmiejamz's Avatar
Jymmiejamz
Status: Offline
Jimmy
1995 D90 SW #365
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 3,468
Registry
Do we know what caused this? If you can't find someone to fix it for you, I know someone who can, but that would be in Va.
__________________
Car Camping Collective founding member and Treasurer
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old July 28th, 2014, 07:12 PM
The Dro
Status: Offline
Dro
1988 Ninety
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 6,690
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jymmiejamz View Post
Do we know what caused this? If you can't find someone to fix it for you, I know someone who can, but that would be in Va.
I put my money on an aged Lucas POS wiring harness
__________________
Mine is NTO... It was new, Now I'm Taking it Off.
Quote:
Online speculation will not replace onsite inspection.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old July 29th, 2014, 12:15 PM
Heyitsmike's Avatar
Heyitsmike
Status: Offline
Mike
'75 Forward Control 101 (RHD)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: South shore, Massachusetts
Posts: 53
Yikes... Yeah, sometimes the only way to fix wiring is a hard reset. I agree with Pedro, wiring isn't the hardest thing in the Manuel... But it can just take a little time. (Not 72 hours tho)
I know there are places around, there is City Side Garage that specializes in old rovers and they have a good rep. They're up here in MA though
__________________
That guy that does stuff
'75 101 forward control
Resident Stuped hillbilly.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old July 29th, 2014, 12:29 PM
o2batsea's Avatar
o2batsea
Status: Offline
Bill Adams
66 109 sw 94 lwb
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: kensington md
Posts: 6,502
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by byrnecc View Post
... But to answer your question, I know the engine harness and main harness both fried but not sure how extensively.
I think "enough" pretty much covers it.
Time to get out the checkbook (algebraically remove the 20% VAT in your head):
http://www.autosparks.co.uk/product_...oducts_id=1337
__________________
Bill Adams

1966 109 5 door wagon 300Tdi "spermaceti fueled"
1994 RRC LeWiB "ruining the air behind me"
1968 2A 88

All my troubles are Rover
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old July 29th, 2014, 01:36 PM
evilfij's Avatar
evilfij
Status: Offline
evilfij
I have never seen a rover in person
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on the internet
Posts: 14,688
This is not terribly hard. You have a very simple truck. If I were you, I would attempt to do it myself. Take a ton of pictures, set no deadline for completion, and ask for help if you get stuck.

To put it in some perspective, I rewired by SII in an evening having never so much as changed a light bulb on a car. Now a defender is a bit more complicated, but not by much. I would think a solid weekend or two would be plenty of time. You need basically no tools to do it other than a screw driver and some small wrenches and maybe a wire crimper.
__________________
*not legal advice*
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old July 29th, 2014, 03:08 PM
JimC's Avatar
JimC
Status: Offline
Jim Cheney
NAS 110 #145
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 7,154
Registry
I rewired my '41 Cadillac when I was 18 with no prior experience or reference diagrams. It took me about two weekends just taking my time and working through it. Rover is really no more complex.
__________________
Jim Cheney

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
to sell or not to sell That's the question bar11 Misc. Chit-Chat 47 February 6th, 2014 12:13 PM
How shopping carts can help fix your NAS110 Neil McCauley Misc. Chit-Chat 19 October 21st, 2009 09:26 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:39 AM.


Copyright