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Old July 29th, 2014, 03:33 PM
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A friend of mine runs a land rover / range rover specialty repair shop. Based on his experience, they are capable of stopping anywhere, anytime, at any cost.

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Old July 29th, 2014, 03:45 PM
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byrne, pm me if you need to a set up a time for me to stop by for a day to assist. Like ron says, this is not difficult work. The worst part is the fear of the unknown.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 03:45 PM
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I'd also plan on a new ignition switch, glow plug relay and who knows what else.
To clarify what we are discussing. Is this a stock ex-MOD, 2.5NA truck? if so, there is no glow plug relay. It is straight power from the ignition switch to the glow plugs.

The engine harness is 4 or 5 wires. It is all pretty simple. If he buys a normal civilian defender harness, it will be different and a few changes will be needed, all fairly simple.

I would first step back and talk about what went wrong and why. You don't want to put in a new harness to find out the short came from outside the harness and fries the new one.

Maybe some pictures of where it burned. If you can follow the wire(s) that were the cause, we could help locate the source of the problem.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 04:17 PM
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byrne, pm me if you need to a set up a time for me to stop by for a day to assist. Like ron says, this is not difficult work. The worst part is the fear of the unknown.
Ed, I spoke with Conor. We can go together.
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To clarify what we are discussing. Is this a stock ex-MOD, 2.5NA truck? if so, there is no glow plug relay. It is straight power from the ignition switch to the glow plugs.

The engine harness is 4 or 5 wires. It is all pretty simple. If he buys a normal civilian defender harness, it will be different and a few changes will be needed, all fairly simple.

I would first step back and talk about what went wrong and why. You don't want to put in a new harness to find out the short came from outside the harness and fries the new one.

Maybe some pictures of where it burned. If you can follow the wire(s) that were the cause, we could help locate the source of the problem.
Most likely the wire insulation was bad from its age.

Autosparks has a harness for the 2.5NA diesel.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 04:23 PM
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Autosparks has a harness for the 2.5NA diesel.
I'm talking about the main harness being different for an MOD and civilian truck. The engine harness is 4 or 5 wires and could be replaced manually in a hour.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 05:35 PM
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byrne, pm me if you need to a set up a time for me to stop by for a day to assist. Like ron says, this is not difficult work. The worst part is the fear of the unknown.
If you, Pedro, and whoever else wants to stop by and help me do it I'd really appreciate that as I told Pedro, I'm very willing to compensate on this.

I emailed Autosparks with the info on my truck (110 Ex-MOD FFR, 2.5 N/A Diesel) and asked for quotes etc. Would it be worth my time to have them wire in extras like connections for 12v chargers, radio, fog lights, etc or should that just be done here?

Thanks again guys, this is turning out to be a good project.
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Extra connections, depends on the cost and what you want. At the worst, you leave them dangling for connection at a later time. I have no idea how Autosparks handles custom looms and fuse boxes, or how they know what wires to run and how long they have to be. DIY sounds like it would be a challenge for you to do alone so maybe better to have them do it for you if not too expensive - only you can evaluate that.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:02 PM
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If you, Pedro, and whoever else wants to stop by and help me do it I'd really appreciate that as I told Pedro, I'm very willing to compensate on this.

I emailed Autosparks with the info on my truck (110 Ex-MOD FFR, 2.5 N/A Diesel) and asked for quotes etc. Would it be worth my time to have them wire in extras like connections for 12v chargers, radio, fog lights, etc or should that just be done here?

Thanks again guys, this is turning out to be a good project.
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Let us know when the harness gets here so Ed and I can coordinate.

I have a few crimping tools, bits and bobs I can bring just in case.

As for the compensation... motha trucka please. Just pay it forward.

But please have plenty of cold Coca Cola.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:11 PM
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Haha sounds good guys. All beverages and meals on the house.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:15 PM
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Haha sounds good guys. All beverages and meals on the house.
I like my Filet mignon medium well.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:22 PM
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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:28 PM
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Should take a couple weeks to get it. No don't pop for the extras. I have a TON of wiring stuff.
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For what its worth i built my own engine harness in about an hour. Less than 20 bucks in materials. I had no idea what i was doing and it came out fine.
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2 ways of doing it. 1 is to buy the recommended autosparks loom and when you remove a section replace it with the right section. The other way is to buy all the correct wire and run it all yourself. Either way you can add any extra lights or power outlets you wish to do.
You will need a good wiring diagram in for both. This way you will know your electric system for when you are in the outback and something goes wrong.
The British have a vehicle wiring colour code so it's fairly easy as all Brit cars will have, let's say for the right indicator a green main with a white tracer. Left hand is green/red. Simples!
The hard bit is taking out the old and if burned figuring out what it went to. Label everything before you take it off.

HTH Good luck!
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2 ways of doing it. 1 is to buy the recommended autosparks loom and when you remove a section replace it with the right section. The other way is to buy all the correct wire and run it all yourself. Either way you can add any extra lights or power outlets you wish to do.
You will need a good wiring diagram in for both. This way you will know your electric system for when you are in the outback and something goes wrong.
The British have a vehicle wiring colour code so it's fairly easy as all Brit cars will have, let's say for the right indicator a green main with a white tracer. Left hand is green/red. Simples!
The hard bit is taking out the old and if burned figuring out what it went to. Label everything before you take it off.

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I'm trying to order the harnesses from Auto Sparks but they want to know the amperage of my alternator- To me it is just a regular alternator but I'm not around my truck. The big FFR generator was taken out before I owned it. How can I tell? It's sitting in a shop still and they said the only way they could find out was for them to test it, adding to the cost...
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Old July 31st, 2014, 01:26 PM
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forgot to ask, is there anyway of looking at it and being able to tell?
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Just pick one with a higher rating. No harm if yours is lower and if you ever want more amps, the wiring will be ready.
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