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Old October 12th, 2014, 05:11 PM
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Santana vs. Defender

I have been researching and love the level of info on this forum about Defenders - my dream vehicle In wondering around eBay motors I found this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Land-Ro...p2047675.l2557 -which is listed as a Santana. I had not heard of this model before and curious if anyone has good or bad feelings about them

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Old October 12th, 2014, 05:20 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_Motor

Lots of good stuff on that...
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Old October 12th, 2014, 05:26 PM
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Lets put it in perspective. Santana used to build Land Rovers on License in Spain. Then they kind of did a half license thing and finally went unlicensed for a while and finally quit. They kind of look a lot like Land Rovers, but have subtle differences. For example, their series like vehicles had the rear door that was shorter as they chose not to notch the rear roof to accommodate the curved top part of the door. Lots of small details like that.

To cite another example of a half licensed knock off, lets take the Yugo, a Serbian version of the Fiat 127, what a whopping great car that was.

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Old October 12th, 2014, 06:01 PM
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Santanas are cool if you know how to look up parts you need and no where to get them. Really not much support over here besides the items that cross over. They're too goofy for me but whatever turns your wheels.
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I think I get the very clear picture Thank you all for the honest feedback
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If it's not already in the US I'd give it a wide berth. My buddy stationed in Spain just got a 1988 Santana 110 with a 200 Tdi diesel who's registration paperwork says it's an 88" lightweight. I wished him luck with getting it into the US at the end of his tour. It appears this is not uncommon with Santana's.
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If it's not already in the US I'd give it a wide berth. My buddy stationed in Spain just got a 1988 Santana 110 with a 200 Tdi diesel who's registration paperwork says it's an 88" lightweight. I wished him luck with getting it into the US at the end of his tour. It appears this is not uncommon with Santana's.
Rule of thumb for looking for one that is the other side of the pond is just like Defenders, make sure it is original! That means engine. No 200tdi's! They just don't have them unless someone has converted it. Parts are not hard to find! Many are cross over parts. Main pro for them is the condition. Pretty much all of Spain is a sunshine state and that means no salt used on the roads unlike UK. They are capable vehicles especially the later ones on parabolics. Series 3 is exactly the same as a UK series 3 only no rot! www.camionmilitar.com for specific parts and paddocks in the UK for the ones that are not. 2 and a quarter engine is the same. Wind up windows from 1980. Later Santanas can be Turbocharged from 81 something Land Rover didn't do until later on. They also have the Santana box that Land Rover later adopted for the V8. 85 onwards cars have many Defender shared parts. push button Doors, dash, switches etc.
Considered by many to be actually better quality build than the Land Rover. What's not to like? Only the uneducated mock them. Oh BTW parts are NOT difficult to get hold of. I should know as I build them.
BTW the cars I build are such that most people would be hard pushed to tell the difference between a UK car and it's Spanish cousin.
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