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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:11 AM
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My 2 cents on this. If the Feds are wanting to go MotoreX on the US Defender community, then this site is their laundry list and we've done their homework for them. If you have any ROW type truck that has come through the ports in any configuration they deem to be less than "original" when it came in even if it's their own fault for lack of doing their own homework at the ports, and it's documented on this site or another then I would probably consider yourself in the cross hairs. They will seize now, ask questions later, and unless you have the funds and will to fight, you won't get your truck back. Just ask any of the former Skyline owners who purchased their vehicles through what they thought were legal means and are now out a vehicle, a lot of cash, and have paid some hefty fines. I really would like to be wrong in my assertion, but if the truck is grey in anyway and there can be some sort of documented proof shown, I'd be concerned.

Now what would be smart, is for the vehicle communities, Rover, Honda, Nissan, Toyota, VW, etc... to join forces and begin petitioning for changes in the import laws through some body like the SEMA action network.
Here here! I'm with bug dude. How many flatbeds do you think they are going to show up with on day 1 at the National Rally this year?

URE is going to a few rovers shy this year
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:12 AM
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:14 AM
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I assume that anyone who bought a vehicle that was imported by Aaron should be concerned. My assumption is that similar rules to buying a stolen car would apply. For examle, my parent's next door neighbor bought a car from a salesman at a used car lot, and it turned out that it was stolen. Months later the police came and took the car and they were SOL. The salesman was bankrupt and they are now out $20k and a Ford Explorer.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:21 AM
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So let me see if I have this stright. Sept. 11 happens, then George Bush gives birth (after birth?) to the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity to protect us from future attacks. Fast forward 10 years and DHS is now running around the country side confiscating old Land Rovers. What the Fuck does a bunch of 25 year old Rovers have to do with preventing another attack on this country? Unless, of couse, said Rovers were full of young Middle Eastern men with RPG's and AK47's. This multi-headed hydra needs a wooden steak driven through its heart before it tires of gobbling up federal, state and local aqencies and starts to feast on newborn babies! Or is it just me being crazy?
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:26 AM
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Kinda late for that...ya think?
Oh, I know - I was just tossing shit out there. I thought the Rover name thing was/is silly and for the most part this seems it to.

ipgregory makes some valid points but really these vehicles are essentially the same thing for the past 20+ years. I could be totally naive but on what scale are they coming over? I can only imagine the amount of shit that comes into our ports and that these Defenders are a fraction. Is it that they are an easy target?

Like was said, no clue on what is really going down - will be interested to see. Just hope I will be safe with the fixes I've done on my NAS
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:29 AM
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So let me see if I have this stright. Sept. 11 happens, then George Bush gives birth (after birth?) to the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity to protect us from future attacks. Fast forward 10 years and DHS is now running around the country side confiscating old Land Rovers. What the Fuck does a bunch of 25 year old Rovers have to do with preventing another attack on this country? Unless, of couse, said Rovers were full of young Middle Eastern men with RPG's and AK47's. This multi-headed hydra needs a wooden steak driven through its heart before it tires of gobbling up federal, state and local aqencies and starts to feast on newborn babies! Or is it just me being crazy?
Customs falls under DHS, as do many other agencies.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:32 AM
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HEY! Easy there sport I'm pretty fond of my 4BT
haha, I hope you know I was totally joking (from what I've read the 4BT is a great option) and I guess that is my point...if using a non-Rover power plant is the "worst" then how bad could it be? Or maybe those 200 and 300's are puking out agent orange when they run :shrugs:
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:40 AM
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This about sums up exactly why this shouldn't even be on the government's radar


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Agents on scene could not provide many details about the situation, but they did confirm that the incident did not pose a threat to public safety
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:42 AM
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I guess thats why they've purchased so much ammunition, they need to be prepared against all the gun toting Defender owners.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Whew - I almost bought a 25+ y.o. 110 from Aaron in February - had a 300tdi and a galvy chassis.

Ended up getting a NAS instead (whew), but Aaron sounded like a stand-up guy on the phone. Hope nothing too bad comes to him because of it.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 11:51 AM
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The guy ripped me off and a few others on this board. He prob got caught title washing trucks and swapping vins.

I'd hate to see an importer get busted but this makes me smile.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 12:25 PM
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A while back Feds were taking all the Nissan Skylines that had been imported. Now its the turn of this community.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Old March 27th, 2013, 12:51 PM
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If we start to see an influx of Defenders here in Canada I think we will be able to guess what has happened.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 01:09 PM
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haha, I hope you know I was totally joking (from what I've read the 4BT is a great option) and I guess that is my point...if using a non-Rover power plant is the "worst" then how bad could it be? Or maybe those 200 and 300's are puking out agent orange when they run :shrugs:
Yeah, I know. I actually started out looking for a tdi but couldn't find one I could afford. I ended up stumbling on a good running 4BT for $500 and the rest is history. I'm looking forward to completing a more stock build on a 109 pickup this year.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 01:11 PM
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Just a bit of sage advice. This is an internet forum and is followed by others than just we enthusiasts. One of the vendors on this site is known to have dropped a dime on most of the other vendors on the site especially those involved with imports and is largely behind recent events. Posting things like "I have a 300 tdi engine"....
Well you figure it out
I was thinking the same thing...after reading all these posts! And I can probably guess who!
Then again...sooner or larter time will tell! Importers have to deal with customs, right?
For all that we know...it was a fresh overzellis newbie customs rookie that pointed out a problem to his superior that led to all this!
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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:09 PM
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I spoke with a senior officer at the NHTSA early last year and he told me Galvanised chassis fitted to any vehicle brought in from abroad was considered VIN tampering. He also stated that a RHD truck thats been converted to a LHD where the vinplate in the brake servo has been moved is also federally illegal and is considered VIN tampering. Which is why I changed the way I work and now i do not do galv chassis on any vehicles and I do not offer any LHD conversions, I just sell original LHD original stock trucks.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:16 PM
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molon labe flag also seems appropriate.


Funny that ECR is posting TDCi tuning on their facebook
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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:19 PM
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I'm blocked from commenting on ECR's facebook LOL
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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:20 PM
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Illegal in what respect? Illegal to import or illegal to own? They are not necessarily one and the same. Surely it cannot be illegal to restore a vehicle residing in the US? Is it illegal to replace a chassis on any vehicle residing in the US?

I'm also curious about the 25 year old land rovers that are currently legal to import. In a few years the Defenders that were built with 300tdi engines will be eligible for import as they will meet the 25 year requirement. Will they still be eligible since the 300tdi engine is not EPA approved? Are the engines on the currently eligible and legal to import vehicles approved? Confused.
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