Originally Posted by ssbartley1
Seems like personal politics/conflict is getting involved with this- two events in the same weekend, that doesnt happen on accident. Petty.
You're right, it doesn't happen on accident. We purposely scheduled this the same weekend as the ROAV MAR event. We're sending a message to ROAV that we do not like what they're doing with the MAR event.
I don't know how long you've been around, Steve, and I don't know how long you've been going to MAR. But in the early 2000's MAR was a great event. The trails sucked, the time of year sucks, the camping situation sucked, the facilities sucked, and the food sucked. But the event was really fun. Many of us looked forward to MAR year-after-year and planned on attending MAR months in advance.
In past MAR's, my group would take things a bit further to add to the enjoyment of MAR. We would have our own tent set up
; Cook our own meals
; Play our own music
; Fix other people's trucks
; and we would pull in 25-trucks and 50-people to the event. This was fun. This is what made MAR for us. This is why the early 2000's were the biggest and best MAR's to date.
But in 2008 that all changed. The event was moved from the smaller Pearls Pond property to Oakridge Estates. This was some-what of a planned move as Pearls Pond was getting too small for the venue, but ROAV burned some bridges with the Pearls Pond property owner at the same time and ROAV has been denied access to the property ever since, even for their smaller Spring and Summer Rallies. But the Oakridge Estates property was a bad move, and many tried to tell the ROAV leadership this before hand. It all fell on deaf ears. The 2008 MAR event all but bankrupt the club. It's not a mistake that you will not find finance reports on the ROAV web site on how they spent $980 on wristband; $6,000 on flowers; or $20,000 for trail guides and land use fees. It was dumb.
I talk regularly to ROAV officers. I've had meetings with Chuck Yarbrough and Christina Rocechel that have lasted several hours. I just spent 5-days with John Keeney at the Texas SCARR Rally and we talked a lot about ROAV and the direction of MAR. When I talk with these folks we typically agree on 90% of the things we talk about. We actually get along quite well and we all share a similar vision that equally represents the brand no matter if you're a stocker or a truggy on 40's. But when it comes down to it, not much has changed over the last few years. I could go into detail and tell you why things have not changed, and if you really want to know I will. But this post is about why we choose the dates for our event the way we do.
After ROAV reached out to me and asked for my viewpoints, some changes have been made. I'm not saying some of the internal changes they have made are solely my ideas of that it was because of me that things were changes, but changes have been made. The changes have been very slow, but it's positive.
Some of it's bullshit, though. Just look at the last few Gear Box newsletters ROAV has published. Note how ROAV keeps hitting on how they want to the club to be more "Transparent". That's bullshit. ROAV has LOTS to hide. Wondering why the financial report is missing this month? Wondering why they want the financial report published in the first place? Wondering why they spent $9,500 on MAR t-shirts in 2008?
MAR will be no different this year. First they could not wait to get away from Pearls Pond because it was too small. This year they're going back, next door to Pearls Pond, for a smaller venue. To make things better, they've got a Summer Rally coming up in 2-weeks to keep them busy, but they have not cut the first trail at the new MAR location. They're back to shitty trails, shitty camping, shitty facilities, and if I had to guess, shitty food. It makes no sense and that's why we are, again, doing our event at the Cove the same weekend.
Is it petty
? I think not.
Next years camp-out will be held on an 8,000 acre property in Orange, VA. They started cutting trails 2-months ago. It's up to the ROAV staff whether or not it's the same weekend as MAR.