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Recovery points

I have a Southdown steering guard with recovery points integrated in on the 110. I was recently told that they would work fine as recovery points on their own but just by looking at them it seems to me like I would only use them with a bridle. Anyone have any experience with how stout these actually are?
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Nope. Not Jate rings. Integrated recovery points on the Southdown steering guard.
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Southdown never made a guard with recovery points.
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A friend of mine runs a land rover / range rover specialty repair shop. Based on his experience, they are capable of stopping anywhere, anytime, at any cost.

I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
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My bad. It's a TerraFirma. Had Southdown on the brain for some reason.
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Southdowns site is down due to hackers! That's odd...(sorry off topic)
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http://www.lucky8llc.com/Products.as...40#prettyPhoto

Here's what I have.
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What type of material is that? It looks like 1/4 or 3/8 aluminum. If that is true I would not trust it. If it's steel, it would depend on how thick it is and what type if recovery it was.
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What type of material is that? It looks like 1/4 or 3/8 aluminum. If that is true I would not trust it. If it's steel, it would depend on how thick it is and what type if recovery it was.
It's steel, probably 1018 or a36.
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Would also like to know as I have one waiting to go on my 110 when I finish my rebuild. Just measured mine and it was 0.315" thick and there was 0.40" of material from the hole the the edge. They also make an alloy version too.
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I'd really vote "no way". If you need a small tug *maybe*, but the last time I got recovered Huff had to get a running start with both of his lockers on and we managed to bend my SG 2" receiver plate that is like 3/4" thick.

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I'd really vote "no way". If you need a small tug *maybe*, but the last time I got recovered Huff had to get a running start with both of his lockers on and we managed to bend my SG 2" receiver plate that is like 3/4" thick.

This was it:
Out of curiosity, how was your rear crossmember after that? I feel like more than just thickness has to be considered here. Things like the geometry and how the forces are distributed.
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Out of curiosity, how was your rear crossmember after that? I feel like more than just thickness has to be considered here. Things like the geometry and how the forces are distributed.
Rear cross was absolutely fine, receiver took the brunt. But I'd say back to JPs original inquiry either get a proper winch bumper, or I saw some brackets made by COR4 (the new Equipe) that bolted into the frame horns and had swivel shackles and were heavy duty (but they were pricey). That, or just put a strap on your front axle and I'd recover on that no problem!
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Rear cross was absolutely fine, receiver took the brunt.
That's kind of what I was wondering about with the more than just thickness thing. The steel on the crossmember is only a couple mm thick yet it held up to enough force to bend the 3/4" steel receiver
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Rear cross was absolutely fine, receiver took the brunt. But I'd say back to JPs original inquiry either get a proper winch bumper, or I saw some brackets made by COR4 (the new Equipe) that bolted into the frame horns and had swivel shackles and were heavy duty (but they were pricey). That, or just put a strap on your front axle and I'd recover on that no problem!
Did we ever determine what the optimal front winch bumper was?

I recall receiving an email with pictures of about 20 different bumpers. What did you get?
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I'd really vote "no way". If you need a small tug *maybe*, but the last time I got recovered Huff had to get a running start with both of his lockers on and we managed to bend my SG 2" receiver plate that is like 3/4" thick.

This was it:
1) couldn't he have winched you?

2) were there any other vehicles around that could have assisted the anchoring or the actual pull?

D) does the SG plate bolt to the bottom of the crossmember at all, or just the face?

54) were you using a regular strap or a kinetic rope?

Cow) Are you still using the SG plate?

Horse) Do you have any pictures? Just curious.

LLama) If you've read this far...
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Big fan of using a bridle and kinetic ropes. The kinetic's give is key to avoiding shock loads on the vehicles involved.
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What type of material is that? It looks like 1/4 or 3/8 aluminum. If that is true I would not trust it. If it's steel, it would depend on how thick it is and what type if recovery it was.
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