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Old October 26th, 2011, 10:33 AM
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Recommendations for a great restoration shop

I have recently bought a '93 110 and wanted to start to consider my options on getting it in top condition mechanically and otherwise. Everything is on the table from a color change, new style puma seating, 4.6 upgrade and maybe an auto conversion. I am still digging around in it to see if the frame and bulkhead are sound. So far so good.

Anyway, I know ECR would be the ultimate place to do the work but the waiting list is long. So I wanted to open up the conversation on who else out there is a good, reputable option for a sound overhaul/restoration of a defender.

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Old October 26th, 2011, 10:47 AM
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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Old October 26th, 2011, 12:51 PM
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I'd say keep it as is or restore it to original as that's what makes it unique as an NAS truck. It sounds like you got a nice truck for a nice price.

If you want a custom truck maybe buy an '85 and do it that way?
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:08 PM
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I second Matt Brown crazy nice work and great attention to detail.

I would say that I would keep the 110 stock and find a ROW to modify.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:13 PM
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I'd say keep it as is or restore it to original as that's what makes it unique as an NAS truck. It sounds like you got a nice truck for a nice price.

If you want a custom truck maybe buy an '85 and do it that way?
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:28 PM
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Well you are in a different boat. You started with a salvage title truck so creative license doesn't really hurt the value. I am sure the fact that I change my 110s cage, wheels, grill surround blak made some people vomit. In fact I took it to ee and I could see the hatred. That and they told me it sucked
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:36 PM
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I am sure the fact that I change my 110s cage, wheels, grill surround blak made some people vomit. In fact I took it to ee and I could see the hatred. That and they told me it sucked
You bring out a visceral response in people
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:55 PM
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I'd say keep it as is or restore it to original as that's what makes it unique as an NAS truck. It sounds like you got a nice truck for a nice price.

If you want a custom truck maybe buy an '85 and do it that way?
Its not a salvage title but its not a garage queen either. Speedo was definately swaped at one point in my opinion. Its been repainted. Needs new seats and interior. Not horrible, just not great. A couple of rust areas in the threshold of the doors. Starting to look like a decent sized job.
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My guess is you bought it because you wanted an NAS 110 and not some ROW knock off, right? If so, then work on restoring it back to NAS specs. From what I've seen and heard, NAS 110s were pure crap (not that that is any different for any other Rover model). But, I will admit, they are unique so that's why I say bring it back to spec.
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Rob D. in ABQ at SW Rovers also does great work.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:33 PM
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They work on trucks. I was just there buying something.

Yes Doug, I bring out the best in people but in this case I think that is a normal response at ee
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From what I've read here and there, the guys at ee have a very specific and focused opinion of how a Rover should be built, and anything outside of that in their opinion is "crap". But they do have some good stuff and knowledge, as well as great photo's.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 03:19 PM
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Yes they do. Check out their forum for some real trash talking. This board has nothing on that one.
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My guess is you bought it because you wanted an NAS 110 and not some ROW knock off, right? If so, then work on restoring it back to NAS specs. From what I've seen and heard, NAS 110s were pure crap (not that that is any different for any other Rover model). But, I will admit, they are unique so that's why I say bring it back to spec.
You make a good point. There is so little resale information to go by its tough to know the impact of non-stock NAS 110. Its clear that a low mile stock NAS hold value well. ECR trucks with all their "upgrades" certianly carry a premium but that is a pretty narrow place in the universe. There is a black NAS 110 in LA that has been trying to sell for around $50k for a while. That probably proves your point as good as any although it looks like it suffers from a bad paint job.

So for discussions purposes is upgrading a high mile NAS 110 to a 4.6 a good thing or not? What about a conversion to auto? .....let the trash talking begin.
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The 4.6 is a decent idea if your 3.9 craps out. Especially if you do it so when you open the hood it still looks like you have a 3.9. As for auto that is subjective. If you want an auto truck make it an auto but do it right with the correct console. I saw a Copley truck with 11000 miles turned auto and black. It was sad but the auto was put in correctly and from what i heard the owner is happy. With a 110 when you make it auto it hides a lot of the drivetrain slop so it might be nicer to drive.

If it was my truck I would leave it white and just do the upgrades as needed which odds are will be instantly since it is a nas 110. If you are going to change the color and you plan to do it correctly (pull bulkhead) I say ditch the shit AC/Heat and get a new td5 style bulkhead where the vents open and put in a td5 dash. In the long run that will be the best upgrade you can make.
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Trevor (roverlab) does great work.

I have seen the detail on some of the cars he did before he went to doing all rover and it is 100 point quality work.

He is also a very nice guy.

As far as resale, a 4.6 can only help, but I would keep it stock 110 style motor. Galvanized anything never hurts. I am of the view that long term, the ECR complete rebuilds will be worth less than the original trucks, but that is just one man's opinion.

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