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Old June 26th, 2012, 01:29 AM
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Rebuilding a "restored" Defender from Land Rover Import/Duncan Goodchild

Haven't been much for posting on forums but I thought it worth while to let fellow Land Rover enthusiasts know more about this Company. I have issued a warning in another thread, but thought I would let photos do the talking in this thread and maybe a video if I can figure out how to post it. Little back ground around this purchase...back in 2010 I was in need of a shop truck....no time to build myself one as I was working on other peoples rigs and I had several clients looking for a place to import legal restored drivable trucks from. After looking online for a while I came across Duncan's website and sent an inquiry. We made a deal on a Defender truck which he said he could have to me by the end of the year (2010) the truck landed about two months ago.

Build specs for the truck as quoted from an email from Duncan:
"new galv chassis
new plastic fuel tank
new brake lines
stainless bolt kit
new chassis and suspension bushes
rebuilt rear axle (the existing one doesnt look so hot)
fully stripped and repaired doors and bulkhead
fully serviced brakes
rebuilt transmission
paint re-finished
rebuilt 300tdi
rebuilt lt230"


More photos will be posted as I can fit the truck into my schedule.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 02:55 AM
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I cant understand why so many people don't get on a plane to the UK to close a deal and inspect a truck.... Buying 25 year old vehicles is fraught with pitfalls, doing this at a distance is even worse.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 06:58 AM
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Caveat emptor - buyer beware.

I cant understand why so many people don't get on a plane to the UK to close a deal and inspect a truck.... Buying 25 year old vehicles is fraught with pitfalls, doing this at a distance is even worse.
Especially after waiting 2 years!
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Old June 26th, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Thanks for sharing Eco, at least there will be some posts out there folks can google and learn. I was surprised when redchevelle here on the forum got his motor in good spec with spares to boot.

I have to say I've looked at his website many times and he presents his company fairly well. The temptation is understandable, human nature being what it is.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 02:24 PM
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How much did you pay for it? Just wondering if you got what you paid for.
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Wow. Sorry to hear about your troubles. Duncan was great with me. The only hickup was that he sent a regular intercooler vice the uprated one I ordered. He sent the correct one out free of charge, didn't want the old one back. He also enclosed a check for some shipping fees that I paid for that he said I should not have had to pay for.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 12:30 AM
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How much did you pay for it? Just wondering if you got what you paid for.
I paid more than a good D90 and less than an ECR vehicle. Wasn't going to the dollar store looking to buy a diamond if that is what you are after.

Replaced the aftermarket a/c belt tensioner with factory item---got rid of one of the noises under the bonnet and will be replacing the engine belt tensioner as well. Here is what the truck sounded like before replacing the tensioner:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23167882@N07/7218811108/
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Old June 27th, 2012, 11:21 PM
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Build specs for the truck as quoted from an email from Duncan:
"new galv chassis
new plastic fuel tank
new brake lines
stainless bolt kit
new chassis and suspension bushes
rebuilt rear axle (the existing one doesnt look so hot)
fully stripped and repaired doors and bulkhead
fully serviced brakes
rebuilt transmission
paint re-finished
rebuilt 300tdi
rebuilt 230qt
Did he do all of the things listed above as stated in his emai?
I don't have any connection to Duncan and I frankly find just about every UK based LR shop and exporter to be vey shady. However, it seems to me that what you received is pretty typical and to be expected for a 25+ year old land rover.
Leaky hubs, dodgy wiring,cracked marker light, corrosion, oil pan leak, worn brakes, cheap replacement tensioner, seems pretty typical. 2 year wait, I think that was your red flag.
Very disappointing but not sure it's cool to trash him on multiple forums.
Good luck with repairs.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 11:30 PM
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Very disappointing but not sure it's cool to trash him on multiple forums.
Well, unless he paid "more than a good D90 and less than an ECR truck". I'm assuming he meant a NAS D90, in which case he shelled out some good dough. And if delivered product was that much less than expectations, I'd be shouting it from the mountain tops as well.
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Old June 28th, 2012, 12:20 AM
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Very disappointing but not sure it's cool to trash him on multiple forums.
Good luck with repairs.
I am merely presenting facts with photo documentation to help people who long to own a Defender or other unique Land Rover. I could care less about if people read what I write...more important for them to look at the photos and make a judgment for themselves. If my photos are wrong or misrepresent something then please let me know and I will make a correction. For many owning a unique Land Rover is a dream they wait a life time for......its sad when someones dreams arrives in a pile of rust and dripping fluids. For those who have been around the Rover scene for some time there used to be a gentleman in Montana that operated a website called "roverpartsused.com" it was forums like these that help let people now what he was up too.
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Old June 28th, 2012, 12:22 AM
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Rear Door Patches and Paint

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Old June 28th, 2012, 06:28 AM
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Looks normal to me LOL.
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Old June 29th, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Looks normal to me LOL.

I had a guy from Hawaii say the same thing. Said it was the paint holding the door together as everything else under it was gone.

Will be pulling the rear doors hopefully sometime in July and blasting then back down to metal to see what is left.
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Photos of rear doors:
"fully stripped and repaired doors and bulkhead"

Was "repaired" ever clarified? It is a shame that some definitions could be to jamb bondo in a rusted hole, file it down the following morning, prime, and shoot with paint. This appears to be the case for you. To others it means to cut out the rusted areas, weld in replacement sections, prep the steel with POR-15, etc. It could also mean reskin using a new frame. Finally, to many those "repairs" is simply attempting to polish a turd, it will never shine, so replace with a new door.

Just look at all the interpretations of "no rust" we have among our domestic sales. No rust to some, sadly, means there is no light shining through that rotted out frame section vulcanized together with rubber undercoating on a RHD UK rig. So some, if it looks shiny and new on the outside, then there is no rust regardless if tapping with a screw driver goes tap, tap, tap then thud, thud, thud on the areas rotted out from behind. And the kicker “no rust” after you see it all over the place is “oh, that is SURFACE rust, not STRUCTURAL rust, so in fact, it is not rust at all.

With digital pictures and email, it is a lot easier these days to vet out potential issues. I am sure most here recall the days of searching the newspaper classifieds then wasting hours to inspect total POS vehicles that were disclosed as otherwise.

In summary, I would be demanding replacement doors painted to match but settle on replacement doors that you paint (provided the paint code is available and install. Nothing less. Good luck.
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Was "repaired" ever clarified? It is a shame that some definitions could be to jamb bondo in a rusted hole, file it down the following morning, prime, and shoot with paint. This appears to be the case for you.
Unfortunately not Bondo, would appear to be weld slag to put it politely.
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Something new!

Well I have always had the truck parked on a slight slant since having it...made the mistake of parking in on level ground. First photo is of the LH side second photo of RH side front wheel wells.

Just for the record I have only be able to drive this truck about 20 miles since it arrived. Picked it up from the Tacoma Port with a flat bed trailer brought her back to the shop...checked all the fluids, tire pressure ect...then took her on about an 18 mile round trip to town. I can see my house when smoke starts pouring out of the dash...emergency shut down and coast into my driveway. Get the truck into the shop to fix the wiring and when the wiring is fixed go to back out of the shop and noticed a puddle of gear oil by the LH rear tire. Pull her back into the shop to figure out the leak. A couple days later go to back her out of the shop and the brake pedal goes to the floor...new puddle under the LH rear tire. And now.....
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Please post or PM how much you paid so I can have a price point to figure out how much I could possibly sell my truck for when it arrives.
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Please post or PM how much you paid so I can have a price point to figure out how much I could possibly sell my truck for when it arrives.

As this trucks price was agreed upon over two years ago you would be better off reading this thread for current values:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...highlight=d130
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So what's the deal on the fenders? Any guesses?
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