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Old September 14th, 2010, 10:14 PM
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Really? Plastic Defender parts? Really?

Maybe Kevlar and carbon fiber tree proof panels but ABS plastic wings? Really? Ewwwww.

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Old September 14th, 2010, 10:20 PM
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yep, and some make them in fiberglass also.
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Old September 14th, 2010, 10:22 PM
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Well fiberglass with some kevlar and a good resin mixture could be nice and as "tree-proof" like I said - maybe actually a plus in my book. But ABS plastic? Sure it gives a little but it's crap and we all know it.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 06:19 AM
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A serie shouldn't have plastic body part, just don't fit .
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:39 PM
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What have you got against ABS ... much better material than fiberglass ... excellent recovery to original shape ...
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Supposedly these are great.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 02:17 PM
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If somebody is going to spend the time to make these parts they should mold them out of TPO. 90% of the automotive bumpers are made from it today. Has a better thermal expansion rate (much closer to aluminum than ABS).
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Old September 15th, 2010, 02:48 PM
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Can you explain what benefit that would bring??
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Can you explain what benefit that would bring??
i would think technically the sunlight could cause waves in the body part due to expansion. assuming that doesnt happen, and you could get the paint to match and stay put... its an off road truck. could be a better more economical solution to repairing the rig. the tpo ought to be more spendy sorta defeating the purpose.

at any rate, whats the big deal? the grill is plastic, the flairs are plastic, k-tel couldnt make the headlight fascia any cheaper. id be curious to see what one would look like 2 years after installation.
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i would think technically the sunlight could cause waves in the body part due to expansion. assuming that doesnt happen, and you could get the paint to match and stay put... its an off road truck. could be a better more economical solution to repairing the rig. the tpo ought to be more spendy sorta defeating the purpose.

at any rate, whats the big deal? the grill is plastic, the flairs are plastic, k-tel couldnt make the headlight fascia any cheaper. id be curious to see what one would look like 2 years after installation.
Regarding TPO.

If you want to see the benifits of a non-painted part look at an older Chevy Avalanche cladding you will see that the UV hammers the plastic. If you look at a Escalade EXT which has the proper paint on it it is done right. The TPO is a far superior plastic with an excellent Thermal Expansion Coefficient (basically it will expand and contract very similar to the Aluminum. The mounting holes shouls still have a slight slot though.

Have you tapped a 5mph bumper in a new car, funny how it bounces back and does not chip the paint. Try the same thing with a aluminum fender. In TPO that would be a $30-$40 dollar part trimmed and ready for installation from a moulder. ABS would be $5 dollars cheaper probably.

The other thing is if the TPO moulder has enough volume you could color match it and not even need to paint it. Then when you scratch it, it will "bleed" a constant color...
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The other thing is if the TPO moulder has enough volume you could color match it and not even need to paint it. Then when you scratch it, it will "bleed" a constant color...

i wonder what sort of volume youre talking.

the other issue is hidden scratch vs scratch resistance. johnathan ward in making his icon's (super custom fj40's) went with powdercoating for 10x the typical scratch resistance (like anyone takes a 100g new truck in the woods anyway). how do tpo and abs compare with regular painted AL for scratch resistance?
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Well something must be great about these. Rovers North gets $70 more for an abs outer wing than an OEM ally one. Since I tweaked one in the driveway I'm in the market. Anyone running the abs outer wings ?
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Lean up against a TPO wing and lean up against the Aluminum wing then tell me which one does not have a wave or dent...

Why the hell do you think LR came out with Chequer plate wing tops, week a$$ design... Cool style but worthless durability

Just like aluminum skin doors on a un-coated steel frame... That was a real brain child.. Ill bet the engineer was awarded for that bit of genius....

I may order a set if they have the top panel also...
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