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Old February 26th, 2013, 12:17 AM
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Pulled over for hella lights

Two nights ago I was pulled over by a California sheriff for driving with exposed hella lights. He said there is a law that states the hella type lights must have a cover over them on public streets. He then proceeds to tell me it's a "hefty ticket, like running a stop sign." I said thank you for the info, I hadn't ever heard that law, and my Hellas aren't hooked up anyways." He left me with a warning and I simply removed my roof mounted lights.

So has anyone else ever encounters this?? I was cruising around town yesterday and saw bunches of jeeps with exposed hella lights.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 12:32 AM
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I dont know the law (i thought they just couldnt be on, but i believe it varies state to state), but if you are a younger looking guy, with Hella lights on the "Jeep" it just attracts attention from cops or at least from my experience, i try to avoid unnecessary police attention.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 12:37 AM
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:15 AM
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24402.htm

They were on your roof? If so, then yes they need to be covered. If they are on your bumper, (and there are no more than two) then they would be considered to be auxiliary driving lamps, and can be uncovered. You can even use them to supplement your high beams, as per this CA VC.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:29 AM
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In CA if you are running roof mounted lights then you should have covers on them if you are on public roadways. That being said its all down to the officer and how they're feeling that day. I've ran mine for a year and a half with no hassle from johnny law with no covers..
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Old February 26th, 2013, 04:53 AM
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I grew up in NOR CAL and have been pulled over 25 years ago for the same thing, I had a FJ-40 with KC lights on it. I was told the same thing about it being a hefty fine, I covered them with t-shirts as I remember to get off without a fine.

It was the only time I was ever messed with for the lights being uncovered. I would just keep the covers in the car in case it happens again.
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FWIW...Virginia is exactly the same. Any accessory lights must have "non-transparent" covers on them at all times when operating on public roads. They will not pass state inspection without them as well...

It depends - ALWAYS on the cop and the inspecting station. My Ford has 4 bumper mounted Warn HID's...I took it to a local guy he wouldn't pass it because of this law. I took it to Ford, they passed it and didn't even say anything...never been pulled over by a cop so I don't know what they would say??
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:02 AM
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This is good to know. I'm going to put mine back on, even though they don't do it here in NC that I'm aware of.
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I have heard that you need to cover auxillary lights when on a public road. It is technically a law.
However, you'd have to be a total douche-nozzle (as a cop) to actually pull somebody over for it!
I rolled around for years with no inspection sticker on my vintage 911 and only got an inspection sticker on my 110 within the past 6 months. Most cops don't sweat that small stuff. I could attribute that to the fact that I'm not 20 years old anymore, but still that's mighty douchy of a cop to light you up for no covers on Hellas. Were you pulling out of a trail onto the road? maybe he thought your were harvesting a *crop* or something?
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:09 AM
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FWIW...Virginia is exactly the same. Any accessory lights must have "non-transparent" covers on them at all times when operating on public roads. They will not pass state inspection without them as well...

It depends - ALWAYS on the cop and the inspecting station. My Ford has 4 bumper mounted Warn HID's...I took it to a local guy he wouldn't pass it because of this law. I took it to Ford, they passed it and didn't even say anything...never been pulled over by a cop so I don't know what they would say??
I have gotten so much grief from local inspection stations with the 90...I only take to to the LR dealership now. They basically all stand around taking pictures with it and then put a new sticker on!
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I am not surprised to hear this, we have the same law in VT. Not positive on bumper vs. roof mounted lights, but they need to be covered. Though I did drive around for a couple months with 4 exposed lights on the roof(random brand the PO bought without covers) with no issues.
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Two nights ago I was pulled over by a California sheriff for driving with exposed hella lights. He said there is a law that states the hella type lights must have a cover over them on public streets. He then proceeds to tell me it's a "hefty ticket, like running a stop sign." I said thank you for the info, I hadn't ever heard that law, and my Hellas aren't hooked up anyways." He left me with a warning and I simply removed my roof mounted lights.

So has anyone else ever encounters this?? I was cruising around town yesterday and saw bunches of jeeps with exposed hella lights.
Surprised he had nothing to say about the ambulance lights!
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This is seriously ridiculous... I could understand it if you were flashing them, imitating an emergency vehicle, but just driving down the street? I am glad the CA govt saved all of us from a set of roof lights.
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This is seriously ridiculous... I could understand it if you were flashing them, imitating an emergency vehicle, but just driving down the street? I am glad the CA govt saved all of us from a set of roof lights.
Plus, I think he keeps them angled IN at his truck. Was the cop afraid you'd accidentally blind yourself through the sunroof?

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I think the law is there to provide a physical interlock for operation of the lights.

Letting someone go with a warning for violating the law seems like a very nice thing to do.
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Were you pulling out of a trail onto the road? maybe he thought your were harvesting a *crop* or something?
Ha! No. Actually my wife and infant son were in the car and we were turning onto our neighborhood street. He whipped around, lights raging and literally pulled me over as I was about to turn into my driveway. I asked him if I could let my wife and son out to walk inside our house. I think he was expecting some punk kid.
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I think he was expecting some punk kid.
That's my guess. In the Series, no one expects a 20 year old kid in it, other than doing something extremely stupid, the police don't really bother me.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 12:35 PM
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Pretty sure roof mounted lights are not legal in WV. There was a Jeep Liberty with roof mounted lights that was not sold there.
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A few years ago my wife was pulled over in our neighborhood in her 97 SW. The cop was expecting to find a teenager, not my pregnant wife.
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I got stoppped for my rear utility light being uncovered. Covered with a trash bag and a tie wrap...that lasted about 2 miles. But the red necks with the lifted, ragged out pick ups are ok to run uncovered and using the off road lights for brights on the road.
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