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Old July 20th, 2016, 04:18 PM
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PLANNING to finally get in GARAGE

Hi,

As you may have seen, my Defender was in an accident and is now at Independent with Dean. See this thread if you are interested:

Accident - Defender Source

Insurance is going to pay for painting half the truck. Dean is going to argue for as much as he can. Either way, I am the original owner, and after 21 years of sitting outside, I am going to have the entire truck painted. I am going to have some other things worked on as well, which this repair is being made and parts of the truck are dissembled.

Bottom line: I think it will come back looking better than it has for a LONG time. Dean says the paint job will be better than what originally came on the Defender.

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I think it is time to get the Defender in a garage. I don't want to let it deteriorate again. These Defenders are now starting to look like a serious investment as well. Does not makes sense not to try to keep it in better condition.

I have never had it in the garage before, because the clearance of my garage door was not enough. I have the ability to modify this, and get a new garage door, and am now planning to do so. If I can not get my garage organized in time, I have a near by place that is designed to store vehicles - which I would do temporarily.

But my new goal is to get the Defender in my garage.

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If it was indoors I would no longer have to:
- Wipe out the water from the floorboards after every rainstorm
- Clear the sap, and all the tree litter from the car
- Clean off the occasional bird crap
- Clear off the snow
- Wash it as much
- I could sometimes leave my door tops off, and the vents open
- etc, etc, etc

I would probably save hours a week

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So how many people on this page are able to keep their cars in a garage? It must be pure luxury!

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Old July 20th, 2016, 04:53 PM
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I am trying to figure out if mine will fit in my garage. I'm expecting delivery next month. The truck sits about 79 to 80 inches high with stock springs and my garage clearance is approximately 81 inches. Tiiiight. I also really want a front runner roof rack which would add 4-5" to the height. I wish my garage clearance was higher.
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Old July 20th, 2016, 04:57 PM
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Mine hopefully coming this month. It will be going in my garage. If it's too high I will just cut two paths in the concrete floor for the tires to make it fit. Currently I have 7'1" height garage clearance. I'm hoping that's enough!
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Old July 20th, 2016, 05:12 PM
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My insurance requires it in the garage, with photos for proof, and it's not even worth 1/3 of what a NAS is.

I'm not sure what I'll do when I get the SD cage installed, because it just barely fits through the door now, and I don't have room for a taller door.
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Old July 20th, 2016, 06:19 PM
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Old July 20th, 2016, 06:25 PM
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I have two 9x9's and I even need to go bigger with some of my Rover. Go as big as you can. I really need 10ft wider. 9ft is tight with the Ambulance and some of the wider stuff.
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 12:44 PM
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I have the ceiling height in my garage. My door is 7'-0". I have the rack on the truck - that is what kills me and why it has never been in a garage. I need about 7'-6".

I realized that the structural beam over my garage door is high - and the opening was just padded down to fit a 7'-0" door. It looks like I can get about 7'-9". I am going to be talking to my contractor next week.

I know that this would mean the expense of a new door.

But I have looked at storage prices in the area. I think the cost of reframing the opening, plus a new garage door (I can use my existing opener) will only cost about 12-18 months of storage.

The Defender has always sat outside - but after the new paint job, I think I should not let the weather start deteriorating it again.

If it was indoors, AT MY HOUSE, I would:
- Be able to enjoy it more, drive it more, and the kids love it
- Be able to keep the truck clean, and spend a lot less time doing so.
- Properly insure it (because it would be inside)

I have two issues:
1) I need to actually clean up the bay of the garage where it would go
2) I need to convince my wife

Wish me luck!

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Old July 22nd, 2016, 12:59 PM
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Good luck, but cleaning out the garage should alone be reward/incentive enough for her ;-)

Be sure to tell your contractor that you will require either sidewinder or barn/carriage doors for your new garage opening. Otherwise the track and motor will steal away some of the precious overhead that you're working to gain.
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Old August 8th, 2016, 03:14 PM
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Good point about the door. I have checked with the door company, and they have room to get the door/ opener to be above the opening, when in the open position.

My wife (reluctantly) agreed that we can modify the Garage door, and get the Defender in the Garage. I have a couple months, before my Defender is back home.

I need to get the ball rolling before she changes her mind. I think I can do a great job. Time to start organizing

****QUESTION:
Can anyone go and measure their truck, and give me the overall width (with and without mirrors). I have 70.5" written down in my files - but don't know if that is with the mirrors?

THANKS!

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Old August 8th, 2016, 03:34 PM
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Do not get an overhead door opener, jackshaft is the in thing now. No motor to look out for its all on the wall.

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Old August 8th, 2016, 03:44 PM
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Keep in mind if you want to keep it true to original, Glasurit is the factory paint.
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Old August 8th, 2016, 09:34 PM
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Flagg,
I was measuring by myself but I was coming up with about 73" across the hood from outside wheel arch to wheel arch and 80" with the mirrors extended to the outermost position.
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Old August 9th, 2016, 08:25 AM
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Do not get an overhead door opener, jackshaft is the in thing now. No motor to look out for its all on the wall.

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The house I just bought has this and I love all the overheard space it has given me. I don't know if it is part of this system but it also has a deadbolt that locks electronically as soon as the door is down, which is nice.
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I've been able to garage my 109 for the past 4 years. When I was house shopping, I informed my realtor that I would not consider anything that didn't at least have a two car garage.

Just last night, I was able to work in relatively good light. All of my tools are still out. The bonnet open and my toolbox out. Just went over, cleaned my hands, closed the door, turned the light out, and done. Also I like being able to come in from a trip, and just leave everything in the back. Fiddle with it later on.

The more space you have, the better. Obviously having a 90 (short) is good. And yes, the taller the garage door, the better. I've got an 8 foot which is the minimum I'd go with. I did have a 7ft one at my old apartment (detached garage) and the 109 BARELY cleared the roof. Still worth it.
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Love 'em. I have three. They should have battery backups as well. Garage works dozens of cycles without line power. The wife loves to hear the bolt fire before she gets out of the car.
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Old August 10th, 2016, 12:11 PM
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All great advice!!!

Roverman - I am an architect - I know some about these Jackshaft doors. I thought you only considered them when you had a cathedral, or high ceiling or something out of the ordinary?

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That jackshaft design is fantastic! It would free up about four feet of space for storing hard tops in summer etc! Of course I'd have to remove a twenty years old system.,,
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Old August 10th, 2016, 04:43 PM
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ON a 16' wide garage door, how does it clear any space directly above the car? You still need the track, and the opener is opener is between the cars on a conventional system?

Maybe I don't understand the jackshaft and should read up on it.

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Old August 10th, 2016, 05:01 PM
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All great advice!!!

Roverman - I am an architect - I know some about these Jackshaft doors. I thought you only considered them when you had a cathedral, or high ceiling or something out of the ordinary?

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For me the jackshaft opener gets rid of the arm between the door top and the track carriage which frees up nearly two inches should you have a rack fitted.

I have fitted about a dozen or so in the last year as I do contract work for the local overhead door guy. about an hour to fit if the Architect has the wiring in the correct location. I love that fact that you can get the 12 volt back up to power out. Do you realize how many people do not how to open the door if no power! great for off gridders.

Have even seen a powerhead sitting on the roof of a very nice Merc due somebody fitting the powerhead to sheetrock only, another mistake for the ARCHITECT?

plus the fact if you have a door taller than eight foot watch how much the powerhead and track moves about in operation, pretty scary.

I do house remodels and build out work and do all my own autocad work, so I gotta ask are you the good architect or the one who designs a house with an ugly garage door in front and nobody knows where the front door is? And why do all new house construction spec seven foot garage doors?

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Old August 10th, 2016, 06:13 PM
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ON a 16' wide garage door, how does it clear any space directly above the car? You still need the track, and the opener is opener is between the cars on a conventional system?

Maybe I don't understand the jackshaft and should read up on it.

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The door basically goes all the way up to the ceiling height because the lift mechanism is on the side and does not need to be above the door. But not sure how that works on 16' wide door or if it works....

My 110 fits in my std garage door height of 84" just barely with stock suspension and the SD cage (but don't have the roof rack installed).

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