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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:15 AM
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P&P Exocage Value

So I've got this P&P full external roll cage for a 110 CSW. It was installed on a parts vehicle I bought that I don't think it was ever actually driven. It had tie-ins for an internal B-hoop and I had P&P make one to match the cage.

I'm thinking of going a different direction on my build and starting to think I may want just an external front hoop and half internal cage.

So I guess my question is: what's a used (but unused) cage worth? It's admittedly scuffed up from being moved around in storage, the b-hoop is unpainted and the front cross-brace is unpainted as well(was missing when I bought it so I had one made by P&P). Some of the hardware is starting to show a bit of rust from when it sat outside. It is complete and I even have the original manual that was in the truck still.

Oh I should mention I had the front struts (tie to the bulkhead) galvanized and I had the tie-ins to the rear cross-member freshly gold zinc plated.

Still deciding what to do, but if I can figure out roughly what it's worth it will help me decide how I want to move forward.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:25 AM
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You'll probably want to provide model number (unless there's only one). I'm curious what that looks like from the side - is that a light bar set back from the windshield (does the portion above the B pillar curve forward)?
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:27 AM
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It's a really good looking cage, a buddy of mine on here has one. I'm not sure it lost much value being installed and removed, probably still worth something to a good amount of people
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:28 AM
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No number I can find. The manual jast says "full external cage for 110sw".
Yes there is a light bar mounts on the top of the front hoop and the b hoop curves forward to mount to the seatbelt bracket. I'll look for a side pick. It's not on a truck right now.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:39 AM
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A new cage is more than 3k after shipping. I'd start by asking for offers between 1.5 and 2k.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:51 AM
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Not quite a full side shot, this is the closest I have.

I guess I should start looking at what the new one I want will cost me and see if it makes sense.

Does anyone make a cage that has an external front hoop that looks like a NAS 90 front hoop buy ties into an internal cage through the sides of the roof. I see the Safety Devices ones, but they look like they mount through the top of the roof.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 12:06 PM
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Still deciding what to do, but if I can figure out roughly what it's worth it will help me decide how I want to move forward.
First, my opinion is that you should use the cage. These things are NOT cheap.

Second, have you tried contacting P&P to get a price?

As you can imagine, asking on D-90 for "how much something is worth" will typically result in very low numbers.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 12:10 PM
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First, my opinion is that you should use the cage. These things are NOT cheap.

Second, have you tried contacting P&P to get a price?
Yes I'm waiting to hear back both what one like this would cost new and what one in the style I'm after would cost.

I know I should use it, it's well made and I have it. I'm sure I'll loose on value if I do sell it but I just don't know if I'll ever be totally happy with it aesthetically. Just not a big exocage fan .

I'm also toying with the idea of a pop up roof so this would be out... and would probably need something custom built.
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why didnt you tell me you had this when i bought your doors?!
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Old June 4th, 2015, 12:22 PM
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why didnt you tell me you had this when i bought your doors?!

Well I'm still toying with what to do.... Plus not sure the RURR driver from Canada would have agreed!
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What will you do about all those holes in the body? Once you go exo-cage, it's hard to go back...
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What will you do about all those holes in the body? Once you go exo-cage, it's hard to go back...
Internal holes are easier. A cage is on my to do list but Brewie and Clay's tire carrier comes first
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Old June 4th, 2015, 01:56 PM
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What will you do about all those holes in the body? Once you go exo-cage, it's hard to go back...

The cage is going on my new 110. It has no holes yet! So nows the time to decide. All those fresh new body panels I cringe to drill them.....
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If you change your mind about using it, we should talk...

Edit: I'm still undecided on what I want to do for mine, either an external A bar hoop with internal B and C, or full external. External is good for 4 wheeling in our area, but I wanted to be able to run a double cab roof, which would look a little strange with an external cage.

If I go full external, I would need to stretch the rear section due to the longer body, and this cage being "used" would be a good candidate for being modified a bit.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 02:27 PM
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Oh I'm pretty sure it's not going on I'll let you know......
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What about a Tithonus (would need shortened 3") cage?
Or a NAS90 A hoop with internal B from a wagon? You could add the internal rear section for the 110.
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This is what it would look like:



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What about a Tithonus (would need shortened 3") cage?
Or a NAS90 A hoop with internal B from a wagon? You could add the internal rear section for the 110.
NAS A hoop with custom B and C pillar hoops was my original plan...

Ideally I would like to be able to pull the double cab roof during the summer and run with no top. The NAS A hoop would be fairly easy to remove and reinstall. I don't want a full internal cage, would like some protection from branches around the windscreen...

Hijack over...
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For some reason, the styling of the P&P cage make the Rover look like it's wearing a bicycle helmet.
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If you change your mind about using it, we should talk...

Edit: I'm still undecided on what I want to do for mine, either an external A bar hoop with internal B and C, or full external. External is good for 4 wheeling in our area, but I wanted to be able to run a double cab roof, which would look a little strange with an external cage.

If I go full external, I would need to stretch the rear section due to the longer body, and this cage being "used" would be a good candidate for being modified a bit.

Yea I like that Idea of the external NAS A bar and the internal B and C. To be honest I would be tempted to take a crack at it myself if I could find someone in town with a more sophisticated bender than the Hossfeld I have access to.

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What about a Tithonus (would need shortened 3") cage?
Or a NAS90 A hoop with internal B from a wagon? You could add the internal rear section for the 110.
I'm undecided about the full length internal cage. I'm most concerned about protecting the 1st and second row passengers. I mean how much more can the rear section do for occupants? I suppose the diagonal bracing helps prevent racking.
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