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Old September 20th, 2016, 11:18 AM
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Our German original NAS 90.

Hi there, new here so please excuse if I make any fumbles. We are (well my wife is) the original owner of a 1995 D90 convertible with fibreglass top, softtop and bikini.
We bought it new in Germany, may sound strange but here is the story. In 1995 the top brass of then LR owners BMW thought it could possibly be marketed on the german market and subsequently pulled this one off the line for homologation purposes. Changed very few things like tail lights,pulled the rear bumper and put different wheels on it and changed the speedo to Kms.
Project bombed for cost reasons and the car was left in the back of a BMW hangar where we discovered it. it wasn't for sale but we managed to get it after a bit. 500kms on the clock never road registered. My wife used it from day one mostly around the stables and for shorter trips and I sometimes used it for towing a vintage racer on a trailer. Never real heavy off road, never any mods.
18 years and 230K kms on it showed all the signs you are famiiar with and we left it with a respected LR shop for a total rebuild which took a year. We originally thought it would be the rear cross member an the floor boards but it was infinitely more. I had picked (I'm connected to the car scene) a brand new (not rebuild) factory 3.9 years before and although the original (still there)
could well be rebuilt dropped that in along with replacing anything looking a bit tired. then sealed and waxoyled the lot.
We didn't go for show because we reckoned on simply doing another 20 but the wife had been used to the pampering of our Range Rover supercharged.
So it just sits there. In Europe no one knows what a NAS is and V8's are not popular due to supposedly high concumption although it isn't all that bad. I have seen that these cars are now very popular in the US so would appreciate any opinions on whether it is worth advertising it there?
If not it just stays tucked away. It should be easy to import as it appears on the infamous "good list". ah yes it's original colour was Coniston which we got tired of and it is now dark anthracite. not original but hey! Not mods other than that. VIN: SA972341
Thanks for advice
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Old September 20th, 2016, 11:33 AM
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You should not have any issues importing to the US if indeed it is a NAS.

As for price... sky is the limit. People here pay stupid money for these tractors.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:04 PM
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You should however contact Uncle Douglas here on the forum he did the import on mine and is well worth it.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:11 PM
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Getting it in "could" be a challenge. Technically it's NAS spec, but I would imagine similar issues would arise like the ones for importing the Japanese or Saudi D90 NAS leftovers.

I would suggest you reach out to one of the more recognized importers here on the board.
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Does it have the US VIN sticker in the footwell?
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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:24 PM
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moving since this isn't a for sale thread. Also, post pics already! And that isn't a valid VIN although I'm guessing it starts with SALDV228(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,X)SA972341
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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:46 PM
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Hi there, new here so please excuse if I make any fumbles. We are (well my wife is) the original owner of a 1995 D90 convertible with fibreglass top, softtop and bikini.
We bought it new in Germany, may sound strange but here is the story. In 1995 the top brass of then LR owners BMW thought it could possibly be marketed on the german market and subsequently pulled this one off the line for homologation purposes. Changed very few things like tail lights,pulled the rear bumper and put different wheels on it and changed the speedo to Kms.
Project bombed for cost reasons and the car was left in the back of a BMW hangar where we discovered it. it wasn't for sale but we managed to get it after a bit. 500kms on the clock never road registered. My wife used it from day one mostly around the stables and for shorter trips and I sometimes used it for towing a vintage racer on a trailer. Never real heavy off road, never any mods.
18 years and 230K kms on it showed all the signs you are famiiar with and we left it with a respected LR shop for a total rebuild which took a year. We originally thought it would be the rear cross member an the floor boards but it was infinitely more. I had picked (I'm connected to the car scene) a brand new (not rebuild) factory 3.9 years before and although the original (still there)
could well be rebuilt dropped that in along with replacing anything looking a bit tired. then sealed and waxoyled the lot.
We didn't go for show because we reckoned on simply doing another 20 but the wife had been used to the pampering of our Range Rover supercharged.
So it just sits there. In Europe no one knows what a NAS is and V8's are not popular due to supposedly high concumption although it isn't all that bad. I have seen that these cars are now very popular in the US so would appreciate any opinions on whether it is worth advertising it there?
If not it just stays tucked away. It should be easy to import as it appears on the infamous "good list". ah yes it's original colour was Coniston which we got tired of and it is now dark anthracite. not original but hey! Not mods other than that. VIN: SA972341
Thanks for advice
best Paul
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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:48 PM
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Looks like one of the last 95s. Id guess that would be #3151 if it were to have gotten a numberplate.

SALDV2283SA972280 '95 #3150 AA Yellow
SALDV2287SA972346 '95 #3152 AA Yellow

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This is interesting. I searched the LAnd Rover warranty system using the first VIN prefix you posted and it shows as being sold at Land Rover Deutschland. No warranty claim history including pre-delivery inspection. It is also interesting that the sale date is 1999.


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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:13 PM
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Wow this is overwhelmingly fast. Impressed. This is complete VIN:SALDV2288SA972341
Correct this must be a late 95 NAS judging by the register.
It does not have the footwell sticker sonce it was never intended to go to the states. It went straight to LR Germany by order of Wolgang Reitzle then a top manager at the parent company BMW.
It was Coniston green. features and still does all NAS spec items like the safety devices rollcage, the US petrol tank, side lights etc. They for some reason changed it to German Borbet wheels with 265/75- 16 BF Goodrich AT. Euro taillights no rear step, and maybe a few little things.
As our papers show we got it straight from LR Germany who technically were the original owner but never registered it. When I finally did persuade them of selling it to me they got it registered with loads of exemptions in the German papers. It ended up costing twice as much as a standard 110 but we never regretted it.
I only started digging into this when we got some offers from shady dealers who knew what it was but told us it was unsellable.
I tried posting pics but they bombed will try again later
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Without the sticker it has to go through a registered importer I think. That costs big money. I would either sell it to Canada, or hold onto it another four years until it is 25 years old and can come in under the normal exemption. WillH and Uncle Douglas will know for sure.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:27 PM
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This thread is worthless without pictures!

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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:28 PM
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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:38 PM
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Do you live in the Mannheim/Heidelberg area? If so, I think I saw this truck at IKEA in 2011 timeframe. I used to live in Weinheim.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 02:04 PM
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Do you live in the Mannheim/Heidelberg area? If so, I think I saw this truck at IKEA in 2011 timeframe. I used to live in Weinheim.
Jim, we bought the car in 1997 living in the Frankfurt Gross Gerau left in 98 for Dusseldorf Krefeld area. So very unlikely you saw it out there in 2011. quite a distance
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Reitzle was well known for some " interesting" engineering ideas. Several of them pushed legal boundaries because they aren't intended for public consumption.
Without all the correct Built in compliance with EPA/DOT regs stickers etc you'll need to wait until it's 25 before bringing it in.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 02:22 PM
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Reitzle was well known for some " interesting" engineering ideas. Several of them pushed legal boundaries because they aren't intended for public consumption.
Without all the correct Built in compliance with EPA/DOT regs stickers etc you'll need to wait until it's 25 before bringing it in.
I may be very wrong but I have seen a list of non conform exemptions which apply to 94 and 95 NAS D90's in which mine has a sequential number. It then has to go through a registered importer process but I don't know how complex or expensive this is. As I said it except for a few bolt on mods for europe registration a standard NAS.

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This is interesting. I searched the LAnd Rover warranty system using the first VIN prefix you posted and it shows as being sold at Land Rover Deutschland. No warranty claim history including pre-delivery inspection. It is also interesting that the sale date is 1999.


I remember now. When I finally did convince them (the dealer had to confirm with LR Deutschland)
the agreed to sell it but WITHOUT any warrantee. Being foolish and wanting to please my wife I agreed. It never let us down though!
The sell date of 1999 is definitely wrong we bought it in 1997
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interesting that it didn't come with a belt rail for a soft top. Does it have the full cage or does it end just behind the driver/passenger?
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Did you replace the frame? Paint it apart?

Nuts to sell it.
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