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Old June 18th, 2016, 06:11 PM
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Experts do not agree on this at all, a 12 buckshot round will penetrate just as far if not farther than a 5.56 AR round. Same with handgun rounds 9mm/40cal they will penetrate further than a 5.56. Plenty of tests out there on the YouTube.

If you are going to bring a gun to a fight inside your home you had better know what that round is going to do when it leaves the barrel.




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Who said anything about slugs or double ought buckshot? moving on...this thread is lame. i need to stop reading it.
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Old June 18th, 2016, 06:38 PM
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An assumption on my part that you would have ammunition in your weapon with the greatest probability to neutralize the threat. The first video addressed both slug and 00 Buck as well as #8 bird shot and some handgun loads.

Not meant to offend you at all but the results surprised me and I adjusted my in home defense tactics weapon and ammunition choice to suit my particular situation.

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Old June 19th, 2016, 09:27 AM
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A good read for all the Cowboys out there:

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-gun-runs-too/
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Old June 19th, 2016, 01:01 PM
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A good read for all the Cowboys out there:

A Good Guy With a Gun Runs, Too | The American Conservative
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Old June 19th, 2016, 07:48 PM
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Top ten gun death states.

The 10 States With the Worst Gun Violence - 24/7 Wall St.
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A good read for all the Cowboys out there:

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-gun-runs-too/
I read the article. Lots of bad info in there... first, he was connested to ISIS. He even traveled to Saudi Arabia and was connected to the suicide bomber in Syria. If he wasn't an issue why was he on the FBI watch list. Anyways, not to get too hung up on the little things.

Here's a good video to watch about mass shootings. Explains the numbers for you. Also, the AR 15 wasn't renamed just because. They do that quit often to distinguish military arms from Civilian ones. Same weapon...

https://youtu.be/yNQebj7_UX4

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Old June 19th, 2016, 08:47 PM
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Top 10 gun death cities.
Gun Homicides in America: 11 U.S. Cities With Double-Digit Rates of Gun Homicides | TakePart

For those who don't want to take the time to click through...

1. Detroit
2. Baltimore
3. New Orleans
4. Oakland, Ca.
5. Memphis
6. Cleveland
7. Philadelphia
8. Kansas City, Mo.
9. Chicago
10. Milwaukee
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Old June 19th, 2016, 10:56 PM
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Top 10 gun death cities. Gun Homicides in America: 11 U.S. Cities With Double-Digit Rates of Gun Homicides | TakePart For those who don't want to take the time to click through... 1. Detroit 2. Baltimore 3. New Orleans 4. Oakland, Ca. 5. Memphis 6. Cleveland 7. Philadelphia 8. Kansas City, Mo. 9. Chicago 10. Milwaukee

Hmmmmm.....these places all have something in common and I just can't put my finger on it.....hmmmm...
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Hmmmmm.....these places all have something in common and I just can't put my finger on it.....hmmmm...
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Old June 20th, 2016, 01:19 AM
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Truth! Ironically sad, yet hilarious.

And my wife KNOWS I only have three guns ;-)
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Old June 20th, 2016, 02:56 PM
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I read the article. Lots of bad info in there... first, he was connested to ISIS. He even traveled to Saudi Arabia and was connected to the suicide bomber in Syria. If he wasn't an issue why was he on the FBI watch list. Anyways, not to get too hung up on the little things.
Hmmm, I've been to Saudia Arabia 3 times more than he did when he did the hadj, and I'm quite sure I've had interactions with suicide bombers before, and after, their mission. Not to mention I frequently got to do enhanced security screenings bc of the TSA/DHS algorithms that missed the whole black passport thing so being on the FBI radar isn't all that people make it out to be. Talk about lots of bad info...
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Hmmm, I've been to Saudia Arabia 3 times more than he did when he did the hadj, and I'm quite sure I've had interactions with suicide bombers before, and after, their mission. Not to mention I frequently got to do enhanced security screenings bc of the TSA/DHS algorithms that missed the whole black passport thing so being on the FBI radar isn't all that people make it out to be. Talk about lots of bad info...
I'm impressed that you spoke to these guys after their suicide bombing missions, please explain that experience to us...

Or is this additional bad info?....

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Old June 20th, 2016, 03:07 PM
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Meeting suicide bombers after the fact normally means putting a hand in a drop pouch to run fingerprints off when you get back. That and kicking the spine which tends to stay together out of the way. The spine and the mushroom stamp, oddly enough. That's what that experience is like.
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