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Old February 25th, 2015, 03:57 PM
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Opinions??? Vinyl vs. 1/2 Leather puma seats

I'm ordering Puma seats for the 110. Both front and back. Primarily to fix the headrest seatbelt issue as I have 3 kids that need to stay safe(r) in the backseat. and the puma seats have the integrated seat belt which is important for middle back row. I think the 1/2 leather in black looks better - but can't tell if it has any grey or not...or if its jet black.

that being said - I think they look too nice and out of place - so Im thinking of going with the dark grey vinyl versions. I feel like wet dogs, people and general defender aesthetics just require some old school vinyl. has anyone had experience with the genuine puma vinyl seats. They just seem more fitting, Plus I think that my kids should have to burn their legs on vinyl just as I did.

welcome all snarky comments and opinions. thanks
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Old February 25th, 2015, 04:00 PM
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The 1/2 leather ones kinda suck. Well I take that back they look nice but there is two issues.
Center is cloth - with kids, cloth stains etc.
The leather isn't anything great. I have seen them look worn really fast.

Hope that helps.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 04:03 PM
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thats exactly what I wanted to hear. I think you just sold me on the vinyl. awesome. thanks
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Old February 25th, 2015, 04:10 PM
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I have the half leathers in the LE and would never have them in a truck I actually use offroad or with family.

They are pretty but not very functional.

I am looking at the G4 Exmoor trim for my double cab which will be my primary trail rig.
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Vinyl as a fabric sux for temperature extremes. Cloth is the way to go for extremes. Leather is posh, but functionally just a step above vinyl. I would never own vinyl, but my rig is an overlanding rig and the goal is the extremes.

now if you put cotton seat covers on them, then you are golden, if you can find seat overs for those seats. I think I like the new exmoor middle row seats more than the pumas.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 04:33 PM
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black cloth (i think mondus) is nice. 1/2 leather looks better!
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What mark said on the vinyl. Lately, it feels like I've been sitting on a block of ice with my vinyl seats. But they are virtually indestructible (and strain proof).
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XS half leather, and waterproof seat covers. It's the best of both worlds.
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I went with the Denim Twill vinyl Puma seats when I did the 130, mainly because of what was mentioned above - stain proof, low maintenance, etc. I did the rear bench seat in matching fabric as well (but just stayed with the 60/40 standard config, did not go with Puma rears as I did not want to cut down visibility).

I also figured heck, if the same Denim Twill vinyl has held up ok for 21 years in the '94 NAS it wasn't a bad way to go.
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I went with the Denim Twill vinyl Puma seats when I did the 130, mainly because of what was mentioned above - stain proof, low maintenance, etc. I did the rear bench seat in matching fabric as well (but just stayed with the 60/40 standard config, did not go with Puma rears as I did not want to cut down visibility). I also figured heck, if the same Denim Twill vinyl has held up ok for 21 years in the '94 NAS it wasn't a bad way to go.
So true on the twill - not sure how it looks so good for so long. And they look like they are supposed to, which is a bonus.

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Vinyl as a fabric sux for temperature extremes. Cloth is the way to go for extremes. Leather is posh, but functionally just a step above vinyl. I would never own vinyl, but my rig is an overlanding rig and the goal is the extremes. now if you put cotton seat covers on them, then you are golden, if you can find seat overs for those seats. I think I like the new exmoor middle row seats more than the pumas.
Thanks mark. I think I'm going with vinyl with heaters, the covering them in the summer. I had vinyl (brown no less) in my fj60. Not much fun on a summer day in Austin, but I do like the ease of maintenance. Thanks everyone for all the great feedback. Now all I have to do is figure out how to pay for the damn things.

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I went with the Denim Twill vinyl Puma seats when I did the 130, mainly because of what was mentioned above - stain proof, low maintenance, etc. I did the rear bench seat in matching fabric as well (but just stayed with the 60/40 standard config, did not go with Puma rears as I did not want to cut down visibility).

I also figured heck, if the same Denim Twill vinyl has held up ok for 21 years in the '94 NAS it wasn't a bad way to go.
I have a set of these I could be persuaded to sell. Takeoffs and I've sat in them for maybe 200 miles total. If someone wants to make an offer please do it through pm.

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I have a set of these I could be persuaded to sell. Takeoffs and I've sat in them for maybe 200 miles total. If someone wants to make an offer please do it through pm.

Ben
Sounds like John just found his seats!!!
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No kidding - that was timely. PM sent. Hanks guys
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The 1/2 leather ones kinda suck. Well I take that back they look nice but there is two issues.
Center is cloth - with kids, cloth stains etc.
The leather isn't anything great. I have seen them look worn really fast.

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I like my 1/2 leather half/cloth pumas, they look great and are comfortable and heated...But as stated above, I have to be careful not to stain the fabric...
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Sounds like John just found his seats!!!
He's not sure he wants to get just the fronts! if there is interest I will take photos this weekend.
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