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Buy a 1997 in any color in the best condition - Change to Arles Blue 3 25.00%
Buy an Arles Blue SW and convert to ST 3 25.00%
Buy a 1994 Arles Blue ST and convert to Automatic 6 50.00%
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Old October 7th, 2011, 06:41 PM
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Opinions Needed: Arles Blue ST - Automatic

If you only wanted an Arles Blue ST, and only wanted an automatic, what would you do, and which is probably easiest?

*Buy a 1997 British Racing Green (from what I've seen they are the cheapest) or other 1997 ST in excellent condition, disassemble the entire body and repaint it the right way. They tend to be low miles, there seem to be a ton of them in CA (potentially rust free), and they're usually pretty clean. I'm usually wary of cars that have had a color change, but maybe it's not a big deal. Going this route would ensure selection of the best 1997 to start with in terms of rust and overall condition, and changing the color from there.

*Buy a 1997 Arles Blue SW, probably keep the side doors, sell the top, cage, rear door, seats, belts, tire carrier etc. to help fund a ST cage and the ST bits (bench seat, belts, hardware, soft top) if they can be sourced. Obviously it would take time to find all the bits, sell off the top and cage and whatnot. A SW to ST conversion is likely an upgrade to some.

*Buy a 1994 Arles Blue ST (would of course need to be super clean, clear title, low miles, A/C all that good stuff) and buy the console and all other accompanying bits from Ashcroft, source a trans and all that stuff, and convert.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 06:58 PM
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Buy a 97 blue and make it a soft top or get a 94 and make auto
Full color change is going to cost way more
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Old October 7th, 2011, 06:59 PM
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Who is this friend of yours that desperately needs an Arles ST with an auto? Can't he or she just learn how to drive manual? Truthfully, I'd say all options are sacrilegious.

Option #2 would be the toughest as you're going to have a tough time finding a full cage.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 07:03 PM
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I think the easiest would be to get a 97 ST and repaint to what your budget allows.

My first choice of NAS D90 was an Arles Blue ST but would of probably opted for automatic if they came out with it in 97 as a soft top. Would I convert mine to an automatic? The thought has crossed my mind, but it's low on the list of things I would want to do to it. It would have to be because of a physical inability to drive stick.

Why all the trouble though? If you want an auto ST, just get a different color. It shouldn't be a deal breaker even if Arles is your favorite color.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 07:11 PM
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Why all the trouble though? If you want an auto ST, just get a different color. It shouldn't be a deal breaker even if Arles is your favorite color.
Well said.

Painting an entire truck would be a lot of work if you want to do it right. Too many shit jobs out there where you open up the hood and the engine bay and bulkhead are the original color. I would say that's the last option.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 07:54 PM
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Horsey,

I can not believe you sent me an email asking me if my truck was for sale and this was your plan. My brain would explode knowing you bastardized it. Not saying making a truck auto is bastardizing but some how you being involved leads me to believe my truck would have been a ghetto sled.

Thankfully I will never sell
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Old October 7th, 2011, 08:46 PM
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Old October 7th, 2011, 08:56 PM
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Just buy a 97 SW and paint it. Because there is no such thing as a clean truck. They ALL have rust unless it's been totally apart and redone. If you're talking about a truck that you'll keep for the long haul, just paint it.....and then rhino line the interior...
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Old October 7th, 2011, 08:59 PM
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dont be a loser and learn how to change gears.

Its sad to see people molesting the NAS trucks. buy a piece of shit ROW truck spray paint it and throw a ZF in it with a floor shifter.
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Horsey, I will swap you an ST for SW.

...but I'm picky and you'd have to figure out how to get all of the bits here.
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Auto conversion is the easiest and I like the 14CUX better than GEMS and 94s are much cheaper than 97s. Finding a decent ST cage is insane as is doing a repaint to a high standard. Also, undoing an auto conversion should you want to debastardize it should be easy enough.
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Only Horsey would want to convert a SW to ST.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 01:18 AM
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HA well I think his goal is to get a blue ST that is auto. The painting option sounds nuts. To do it right would take a ton of work. To get a ST cage and the parts is tough but not impossible. Just offer 5k for a nice one and someone will appear with one. That someone might even be me. Kidding I don't have one anymore but I know an asian guy who likes to kick people in the nuts that would part with one for 10k.
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I just saw a 94 Arles blue ST here is Kailua. Kailua is where Obama vacations when in Oahu. It was a little rough but I really like Arles blue defenders. Isn't this one of the most rare colors?
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HA well I think his goal is to get a blue ST that is auto. The painting option sounds nuts. To do it right would take a ton of work. To get a ST cage and the parts is tough but not impossible. Just offer 5k for a nice one and someone will appear with one. That someone might even be me. Kidding I don't have one anymore but I know an asian guy who likes to kick people in the nuts that would part with one for 10k.
Barry you are 100% right. The painting option is nuts. However, I figured that a guy who has a truck that is a rolling advertisement for rhino lining isn't "all" there anyway, so it might not seem nuts to him.
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Swap the gearbox. I am basically doing that today. But they should learn stick.
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Swap the gearbox. I am basically doing that today. But they should learn stick.
X2. You might actually increase the value, to the right buyer. And its probably the least expensive if the other options were done right.
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I figured that when Option 3 (buy an Arles Blue ST and convert to automatic) was the shortest paragraph that it was also the easiest option, and was the option I was already pursuing. The difficult part is the first step - finding a low miles, clean titled, rust free Arles Blue ST with A/C as the platform - as that is going to take some time to find. I agree with Ron though, it's not really a bastardization of the truck, as the conversion can basically be reversed with ease. Thanks guys!

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The difficult part is the first step - finding a low miles, clean titled, rust free Arles Blue ST with A/C as the platform - as that is going to take some time to find.
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josh is this for ****? call me would you please.
OK maybe this won't be the hardest part.
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