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Old April 23rd, 2012, 08:54 PM
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opinion on the 110?

hi guys. please check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=...#ht_500wt_1182

the seller did not get his reserve. any opinions about this truck would be helpful.
thanks in advance....
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:39 PM
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It's sagging in the rear like Baby Huey's sitting in the back.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:18 AM
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Search the for sale forum for past nas 110 postings and compare

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...hlight=Nas+110

Seems kind of low for the miles

Are those the correct heads on the rear cage bolts?
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Nope bolts are wrong.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 02:29 AM
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Bolts should look like this and I highly suggest going to stainless everything all over the rack, doors, hood, etc. .... you know.

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Old April 24th, 2012, 07:36 AM
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Pretty sure we were making fun of this truck a year or two ago when it showed up for sale with those hinges and bolts all around. Looked like someone had tried cleaning it up in a hurry without worrying about keeping it original.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 08:41 AM
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I saw this one at the "Battle of the Brits" show here about three years back. It seemed okay, but it sure wasn't sitting low in the back like that and I do not remember seeing those hinges on it. It seemed clean enough from the outside and inside, but I did not look underneath, and I do not recall seeing that missing paint on the left rear. I think Josh's last comment seems pretty close.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 09:16 AM
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besides not being original, what is wrong with the hinges? They look nice and stout
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Bolts should look like this and I highly suggest going to stainless everything all over the rack, doors, hood, etc. .... you know.

Christian,
Is the bolt you pictured stainless or stock LR? I would sure love to find a stainless version of the stock part.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 10:07 AM
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besides not being original, what is wrong with the hinges? They look nice and stout
IMHO nothing is wrong with the hinges. I think those are aftermarket billet cnc-machined alloy units and are definitely not cheap.

I'm guessing the backlash has to do with them not being the crappy authentic NAS hinges, and also the fact that they are black and not body colored.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:42 AM
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Christian,
Is the bolt you pictured stainless or stock LR? I would sure love to find a stainless version of the stock part.
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Oops sorry I screwed up. I posted a picture of the stock bolts that are torx and are not stainless. I could not find M10 1.5 thread pitch in torx so I cheated slightly and ordered Metric Button Head. I ordered three different lengths at 25, 30, 40, and 60 mm. I punched holes in a cardboard box and primerd and painted them glossy black with a rustoleum professional product. I also bought nylon plastic washers to go between the painted truck and the bolt. Before installing I took a wire brush to each captured nut in the rack. I also coated the threads of the bolts with silver antiseize so it help protect the threads of the non stainless painted bolts from coroding. Overall it came out great but did cost about $250 for the bolts and paint from McMaster. I'll post a picture a little later.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3133/=h8v3yq
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:53 AM
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I thought using stainless bolts on the cage was a no no. The 110 cage is huge and really relies on the bolts holding it together. I know nothing about sheer strength just what I saw on the board.


When I powder coated mine black I used all new factory bolts. Ended costing about 250.
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Barry. You are correct.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 12:13 PM
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Well Pikes Peak was the one who suggested I do it. I live in Cali so I dont really have much rust anyway. I think ECR puts stainless bolts on the rack to. I know those BR are all stainless hardware. If you compare the tensile strength of stainless hardware it compares to grade 5 steel hardware which I guarantee you is better then what LR installed these with. And if they corrode then they are much weaker anyway. Tensile strength of these bolts is a minimum 85,000 lbs and grade 8 steel is 150,000 just to give you an idea. I suspect they are fine but what do I know. : )
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I need those front speaker spacers! Any idea where to get them?
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I need those front speaker spacers! Any idea where to get them?
I'll sell 'em to ya for $54,000 sorry, had to...
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Well Pikes Peak was the one who suggested I do it. I live in Cali so I dont really have much rust anyway. I think ECR puts stainless bolts on the rack to. I know those BR are all stainless hardware. If you compare the tensile strength of stainless hardware it compares to grade 5 steel hardware which I guarantee you is better then what LR installed these with. And if they corrode then they are much weaker anyway. Tensile strength of these bolts is a minimum 85,000 lbs and grade 8 steel is 150,000 just to give you an idea. I suspect they are fine but what do I know. : )
Stainless on the Rack maybe but I doubt that ECR uses bolts other than what is supplied for the cage. As an SD cage distributer and installer that would not be smart.


If you spray your hinges and bolts with clear waxoyl it keeps the rust under control. I just tape off the doors and spray them. It does dull the appearance on the hinge a little but they don't rust. Also I do not believe it is all tensile strength. Stainless "shears" easier than grade 8. I would rather a rusty grade 8 bend than a stainless one shear.

http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-in...ade-Chart.aspx
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