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Old August 7th, 2014, 07:18 AM
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Old August 7th, 2014, 12:58 PM
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In case anyone was wondering about the cage configuration, here is basically what it will be like, except we are shooting for 100% internal. It will be our goal to figure out the A-hoop design to where we don't have to cut into the dash.

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Old August 7th, 2014, 01:23 PM
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I can't see how you could do an internal cage without cutting the dash and having it seriously in the way. Their is zero spare room inside the cab of a Defender. Even with cutting the dash it will be a hazard to taller people. That is why everyone build the front part external..... It is not for shits and giggles.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 01:36 PM
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I can't see how you could do an internal cage without cutting the dash and having it seriously in the way. Their is zero spare room inside the cab of a Defender. Even with cutting the dash it will be a hazard to taller people. That is why everyone build the front part external..... It is not for shits and giggles.
Its been done before..... and good thing I'm only.... 5'9". Ok, 5'8".....
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Old August 7th, 2014, 01:51 PM
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That is an NAS D-90 cage.

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Old August 7th, 2014, 01:51 PM
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Internal? Sounds like a jeep thing to me. I don't understand.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 01:56 PM
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Its the quick and easy 'wham bam thank you ma'am' approach

It can be done it just takes a bit more work.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/ECR4cage.html
There is no way that is structurally sound...and that must be going through the dash as well.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 02:12 PM
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I agree, those center bars are too close, and there should be come diagonal support for the B hoop, but that isn't really what I was highlighting.

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My point... When you add the required bars AND also make it not go through the dash, the bars will be in the way of the passengers and be a hazard to them during a collision.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 02:13 PM
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I assure you all, it will be structurally sound, and practical. It will be an entirely custom job, just loosely based on this NAS cage. I just didn't want some boring truck that was the same as everyone else's on the road/trail. The idea behind internal was for simplicity when the truck has the soft top on. Clean lines with a stock look, yet very custom at the same time.
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Old August 7th, 2014, 05:50 PM
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Don't forget Jonsey ponied up for half of the cost of the truck!

If the cage discussion gets too out of hand we should make another thread for it and just update this with the real deal.

The pics so far show it how it arrived and some de-ambulancing. Other than removal of stuff not needed and some cleaning we really haven't done too much yet. Hopefully on the weekend of the 16th/17th we'll have another session and

1. get the engine running (install exhaust, add fluids, wiring, heater and coolant hoses, fan shroud, throttle cable)
2. old suspension removed and studs swapped
3. do some frame cleanup and painting, particularly where suspension bits meet it

and the following session(s)

4. get the new suspension bits in, hopefully brakes replaced
5. gas tank and skid installed
6. install side locker
7. make bulkhead elimination symmetric
8. return sweatbox and seats
9. install doors and tailgate once we get them
10. take a vacation to NC to visit Brewie :D

#4&5 are dependent on #2 but the rest can be done anytime we have help

At some point we need to pick a direction on bulkhead repairs too and I am sure I am forgetting a lot.

This is what it looked like after session #1
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And this is the engine bay sans fan shroud

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This week some more goodies arrived from Greg! This stuff might be for sale to fund the build.

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Old August 7th, 2014, 06:25 PM
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Don't forget Jonsey ponied up for half of the cost of the truck!
Could never forget Jonesy! Sorry mate. Craig Jones made a huge contribution to this operation by covering half the cost of the truck, and is lending his wrenching skills now that the truck has arrived. His knowledge and advice have been invaluable as well. Thanks Jonesy!
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Old August 7th, 2014, 09:43 PM
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I think I have an extra electric in-line fuel pump if you guys want it. I was told by the forum to install one in addition to the standard mechanical pump. If you guys want it I can send it down when the guys come to help me with the wiring. Also its new in the box...
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Old August 8th, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Conor that wouldn't be a bad idea, thanks. We can always return it if not needed.
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Old August 12th, 2014, 09:03 PM
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Ok, who's in for a wrenching session this Saturday?
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Old August 12th, 2014, 09:08 PM
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Old August 20th, 2014, 05:42 PM
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Hey wait, this is the thread you should be updating with pics!

Next wrenching is Saturday at 9am. Got to get the pushing's pressed out, more cleanup, and painting of frame, axles and suspension parts.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 05:46 PM
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Hey wait, this is the thread you should be updating with pics!

Next wrenching is Saturday at 9am. Got to get the pushing's pressed out, more cleanup, and painting of frame, axles and suspension parts.
Oops. The pics from this upcoming Saturdays wrenching session will be posted to this thread, I promise.

That being said, I will see you guys at 9am.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 08:42 PM
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Reminder, wrenching tomorrow, now starting at 8am. I'll setup some still capturing of the camera so we can make a time lapse of it. Should have done that for the last two but...
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