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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:10 PM
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Oh Defender guys lend me your minds

I am racking my brain trying to come up with an out of the box solution to my issue. I am looking for ABS/Plastic drums similar to this:



This is a drum from a furler on a sailboat, what I am looking for is a similar style drum, maybe a bit wider but I can't think of any other applications that may offer a cheaper alternative to this ($250 woof).

Could be metal but ideally it would have a sealed greasable shaft and would not be used in a high stress environment, no engines turning these all day. I need it to handle basic line (rope) at a no more than a hundred RPMs for a pulley project I am designing.

I have seen capstan winch drums that may fit the bill but I was hoping you guys could help me think of an agricultural or otherwise less demanding application that may offer a more affordable solution for this sort of drum.

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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:18 PM
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Check your wire suppliers..looks like a spool for wire.. A mig wire spool looks like it would do the truck nicely..
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:19 PM
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You could epoxy in whatever sort of inner hub or bearing you wanted..a bushing with a sleeve should be able to handle low toad and rpm nicely..
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:22 PM
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Check your wire suppliers..looks like a spool for wire.. A mig wire spool looks like it would do the truck nicely..
I had that same thought but those aren't usually very dense plastic, I could use them for a prototype and outsource final specs, I guess I would need an CAD drawing and then I could shop around. I have friends in the marine industry that may be able to source.

was just hoping for something off the shelf, would save serious $$
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:28 PM
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need some dimensions to help
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Would take sweet frig all to lathe one up on a machine.. Make it out of whatever you want then.. Go to an old school machine shop..those older guys know how to make shit and think outside the box... Or go to one of your sailor salvage yards..pick up an old looking one and refurb with a can of rattle can restorer.. we have a place called sailorman and it's a sailboat flea market salvage yard kinda thing... Do a search on craiglist under furled or spool and you never know what you might see and get the creative juices flowing in another direction..
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How about those rollers that have a spike fitted that you place around the yard so your hose does not get caught on, homerdepot
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:34 PM
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How about two metal discs welded to a section of pipe that could be machined to accept bearings
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:37 PM
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Have you tried google.... pulley sheave (replacement) there are options out there...hmm maybe too small. Still curious about what you're doing ...??
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How about those rollers that have a spike fitted that you place around the yard so your hose does not get caught on, homerdepot
You beat me to it.
They could be modified to accept more line, but this by far has to be the cheapest solution.

There are a lot of mechanical minds on this board, so you reached out to the right group.
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Plastic spool that wire rope comes on? For small diameter wire rope they have what might be the ticket.

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All great ideas!

Ideally it would be approximately 8"-10" wide with a 4-6 inch diameter drum and pretty thick sides at 10-12in in diameter

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What about boat trailer rollers? -Jeff
need higher sides, I looked at line rollers for tack line on bots but the furler hardware seems to match the specs I'm looking for

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How about two metal discs welded to a section of pipe that could be machined to accept bearings
I could do it with pipe and have the discs cut, just be really heavy for the application I'm considering
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Ideally it would be approximately 8"-10" wide with a 4-6 inch diameter drum and pretty thick sides at 10-12in in diameter
Ok.. yup that's big and custom. I did find a co. that will make to your specs. You'd have to call and find out the damage.
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Ok.. yup that's big and custom. I did find a co. that will make to your specs. You'd have to call and find out the damage.
Super winch drum maybe http://m.quadratec.com/products/prod...pid=92123+2003
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hmm... and just add to the end height.
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Going to the local plumbing supply to see if I can assemble out of pvc or some other solution

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What about the bearing/rim from a wheel barrow (remove the tube and tire)? Or one of those handtruck wheels harbor freight sells. -Jeff
I looked into this but not wide enough

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This got the wheels turning! Thanks for the link

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Check your wire suppliers..looks like a spool for wire.. A mig wire spool looks like it would do the truck nicely..
While I'm kicking around I'll see if anything like this off shelf works
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Too big to 3d print?
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Too big to 3d print?
What about sticking a lump of ABS in a lathe?
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Depends on intended use. I too would make something out of pvc. Sched 40 pipe for the center hub and Azek 3/8 or thicker for the end plates. Easy enough to make up the center bearing or sleeve you need. PVC is one of the easiest materials to work with and glue, and its pretty cheap
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