No More Toyota FJ-Cruisers - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old November 6th, 2013, 07:26 PM
61rover's Avatar
61rover
Status: Offline
John Crouse
'93 NAS D110 (#8) / '61 Series II
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,116
Registry
No More Toyota FJ-Cruisers

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...imate/3444567/

2,500 special editions for 2014 then no more......
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old November 7th, 2013, 08:02 AM
101stAirborne's Avatar
101stAirborne
Status: Offline
Battle Ewing
1997 D90 LE 255/300
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hernando, MS, USA
Posts: 1,200
Registry
Good! They are crap!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old November 7th, 2013, 08:29 AM
mgreenspan's Avatar
mgreenspan
Status: Offline
Matthew Greenspan
Land Rovers
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nevada City
Posts: 1,719
Registry
They sold/sell more units per year in the US than Land Rover did/does LR3s/LR4s.
__________________
Do not read the next sentence.

You little rebel, I like you.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old November 7th, 2013, 08:45 AM
CMSgt Bo's Avatar
CMSgt Bo
Status: Online
Bo
1985 One Ten
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Banner Elk NC
Posts: 784
McDonalds sells more burgers than any other restaurant…that don't make them better.
__________________
Proud member of the YCHJCYA2PDTHFH club.

My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old November 7th, 2013, 08:58 AM
mgreenspan's Avatar
mgreenspan
Status: Offline
Matthew Greenspan
Land Rovers
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nevada City
Posts: 1,719
Registry
I wasn't saying they are better(I'm sure Consumer Reports would somehow prove they are through their scoring system, though). Just pointing out that they were better selling and are getting rid of the line and it isn't a big deal to them.
__________________
Do not read the next sentence.

You little rebel, I like you.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:08 AM
LR Max
Status: Offline
Thomason, Max
1973 Series 3 109
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 401
Wonder if they will supply a replacement. I see a ton of FJC's on the trail, and of course tons on the pavement.

I never was a fan as I couldn't see out of the stupid thing. But I know many who really like theirs.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:26 AM
C391HAT's Avatar
C391HAT
Status: Offline
Zach
86 110
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 239
Don't worry, Land Rover will be making a replacement for it. I hear they are going to call it the new "Defender".
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:35 AM
Howski's Avatar
Howski
Status: Offline
Kevin
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 657
Registry
I've always hated these. They look like turtles and have terrible blind spots
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Z.G's Avatar
Z.G
Status: Offline
Zack
300Tdi 95 D1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,670
Registry
Man, there are going to be so many upset females ages 18-30.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Rocky's Avatar
Rocky
Status: Offline
Chris
72 + D1 drivetrain
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Colonies Aka Boston
Posts: 8,770
Who can forget the way the inner fenders split.
__________________
A friend of mine runs a land rover / range rover specialty repair shop. Based on his experience, they are capable of stopping anywhere, anytime, at any cost.

I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old November 7th, 2013, 09:56 AM
javelinadave
Status: Offline
-
-
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: -
Posts: 5,394
Wow! I expect this from Jeep folks but not from here.

Let's see:
Doesn't leak
Starts every time
No rust
No rot
Better visibility than a panel truck or an FFR
Factory A/C
Insulation
No grounding issues
Side impact protection

I'm sure I missed a few more things.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old November 7th, 2013, 10:31 AM
rijosho's Avatar
rijosho
Status: Offline
Joshua
1995 Black ST - Rhinolined edition
Research Assistant/Eagle Eyes
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,557
Registry
When these were in development I wanted one. The original designs had called for an interior that could all fold down flat to create a great sleeping platform, a rear inverter for electronics, and some other stuff. They may have kept the inverter idea, but I know they scrapped the sleeping platform at some point during the research portion of the project...I can only assume it was after talking to parents who said they'd never buy their teenager a vehicle that could so quickly turn into a full sized mattress.
__________________
Quote:
I am talking purely from an aesthetics standpoint.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old November 7th, 2013, 10:39 AM
Howski's Avatar
Howski
Status: Offline
Kevin
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 657
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Better visibility than a panel truck or an FFR
I don't think comparing a modern SUV to a utility vehicle with no side windows is really apples-to-apples
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old November 7th, 2013, 10:45 AM
mgreenspan's Avatar
mgreenspan
Status: Offline
Matthew Greenspan
Land Rovers
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nevada City
Posts: 1,719
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Wow! I expect this from Jeep folks but not from here.
I always expect these sorts of responses from here. You've got a forum half full(or more) of people that are afraid to drive their trucks more than 100 miles from home but argue about how they want something that is easy to field repair. It never makes sense.
__________________
Do not read the next sentence.

You little rebel, I like you.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:04 AM
javelinadave
Status: Offline
-
-
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: -
Posts: 5,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by FSU_Disco View Post
I don't think comparing a modern SUV to a utility vehicle with no side windows is really apples-to-apples
We have non Defender owners on a Defender forum throwing rocks. What is that, apples to hot dogs?
LR still sells brand new panel sided vehicles in several markets. My point is that as a whole, Defender owners have more to be concerned about (quality wise) than any Toyota owner does. An FJ is a very viable daily driver and even most here would agree that a Defender isn't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgreenspan View Post
I always expect these sorts of responses from here. You've got a forum half full(or more) of people that are afraid to drive their trucks more than 100 miles from home but argue about how they want something that is easy to field repair. It never makes sense.
100% correct on that.


Drive what you want, I have owned Jeeps, LR's, and Toyotas.
I have never spent a dime on repairs on the 9 Toyotas I have owned. Gas, oil, brakes, tires, batteries and insurance, PERIOD. That includes my FJ, my current daily driver.
I love my Defender but I'm not going to bad mouth Toyota's overall quality and reliability.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:05 AM
Viggen's Avatar
Viggen
Status: Offline
Jarrod
none
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Arlington, Va
Posts: 774
They are like driving a submarine. Mirrors everywhere and rear view cameras are a must in those things. They were to be temporary, not permanent and as much as I do not like them, I am not too sure I would call them crap. They are hugely popular and have a massive aftermarket to support them.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:07 AM
WD90's Avatar
WD90
Status: Offline
Dan
1995 NAS Defender 90
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 376
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgreenspan View Post
I always expect these sorts of responses from here. You've got a forum half full(or more) of people that are afraid to drive their trucks more than 100 miles from home but argue about how they want something that is easy to field repair. It never makes sense.
I have no issues with the Toyota FJ's... we've had several here at the dealership, and I thought they were pretty cool. I'm not scared to drive my Defender more than 100 miles... I am scared of the fuel bill, but that's about it.

------ Follow up post added November 7th, 2013 11:09 AM ------

Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
We have non Defender owners on a Defender forum throwing rocks. What is that, apples to hot dogs?
Haha! I would have been a little more defensive if I knew he wasn't a Defender owner...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:12 AM
Z.G's Avatar
Z.G
Status: Offline
Zack
300Tdi 95 D1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,670
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
=


Drive what you want, I have owned Jeeps, LR's, and Toyotas.
I have never spent a dime on repairs on the 9 Toyotas I have owned. Gas, oil, brakes, tires, batteries and insurance, PERIOD. That includes my FJ, my current daily driver.
I love my Defender but I'm not going to bad mouth Toyota's overall quality and reliability.
You'd be hard-pressed to find someone in this thread bashing their quality or reliability. They are ugly and have poor visibility from inside the cab, I think that's the general consensus.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:15 AM
javelinadave
Status: Offline
-
-
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: -
Posts: 5,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by WD90 View Post
Haha! I would have been a little more defensive if I knew he wasn't a Defender owner...
I'm trying to be a good neighbor in our pint sized neighborhood.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old November 7th, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mybluett's Avatar
Mybluett
Status: Offline
Defenders Northwest
110SW
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 2,007
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by FSU_Disco View Post
I don't think comparing a modern SUV to a utility vehicle with no side windows is really apples-to-apples
Nor is comparing reliability of a 15-30 year old Defender to a current production vehicle...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Non-Technical Discussions > Misc. Chit-Chat

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser IvanKV For Sale - Vehicles 63 January 27th, 2014 06:00 PM
Toyota Bars gotta move'em brn24whl The Vendors Loft 4 May 22nd, 2013 03:09 PM
Gas Mileage - 110, FJ Cruiser, Escalade ORover Misc. Chit-Chat 11 February 26th, 2011 12:36 PM
2010 defenders are back in the us!! mountainviewrover Misc. Chit-Chat 54 February 3rd, 2009 12:44 AM
Converting to Toyota 3rd member Broke It Defender Technical Discussions 8 October 16th, 2005 09:45 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:14 PM.


Copyright