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Old January 9th, 2016, 03:20 AM
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New H4 LED bulbs for Defender video by IPF :)

I posted some info about the new H4 LED bulbs by Philips and CN360 in the Truck-Lite thread here, but I found this video by IPF featuring the Defender so I decided they need their own thread. The Defender shows up at 1:51.

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Here are the IPF H4 LED bulbs on Amazon Japan: Http://Www.Amazon.Co.Jp/dp/B01465ZOUK
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Old January 9th, 2016, 03:37 AM
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This one shows even more Defender footage. :D

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Nice.

Is "light"defender porn considered soft core? ;-)
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Old January 9th, 2016, 04:20 AM
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This is interesting. Here's a screenshot of a video for the popular JW Speaker 8700 Evolution II LED headlights.



Here's the new H4 LED bulb from IPF, flipped for US right hand traffic. It looks significantly better to me.



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Nice.

Is "light"defender porn considered soft core? ;-)
Haha no, it's hard core all the way.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 05:56 AM
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On ebay IPF Headlight LED Bulb H4 6500K 341HLB New from Japan (1000)
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I think I might give this a try. Why not? Any idea about dot compliance at this point?
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Old January 9th, 2016, 09:28 AM
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why not give these a whirl then Steve supports Old North State, ive seen these particular bulbs in ecode housings they are pretty nice get the LED without the jeep look
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Old January 9th, 2016, 09:34 AM
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my trucklight LED headlights are brighter than: my wife new cayenne / the MB gl450 we have too. they are so bright they tend to piss people off in front of you.
again they are so bright i have never turned on the fog-lights while driving as there is no need.
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. they are so bright they tend to piss people off in front of you.
again they are so bright i have never turned on the fog-lights while driving as there is no need.
Are any of the LED options DOT or SAE certified? I'm one of those people that get pissed off by people with overrated or poorly aimed headlights.... and people who run fog lights when they are not needed. All are very common here in Maine.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 10:27 AM
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the trucklites are DOT approved. I cant say specifically on these other items.
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I hate poorly adjusted headlights too.

My Hellas are not DOT approved either.
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even if they are same light output, which would be great, i see each having advantage. ipf is cheaper conversion, trucklight is sealed.

im guessing if the ipf bulbs got wet, they'd be toast.
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IPF's are not cheaper at least according to that ad-- they are $320 (with shipping) plus you need the housing. Some may have housings, but I don't and it is still part of what I consider cost. Basically the same price as a pair of truck-lite led complete units. So more expensive...Also, the description of the IPF keeps saying BULB and not BULBS so it may be a per each cost... In which case a pair is considerably more...
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Amazon Japon says 19,600yen ea, so some where like $165 ea. Not water proof and you can't use the plastic lamp bucket. Not for I says fred
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Yeah the IPF bulbs are expensive like the Philips. Probably because they're made in Japan. The CN360 bulbs from China are $67.50 on eBay (2pcs 50W 8000LM Philips LED Headlights Kit H4 Hi Lo Beam Bulbs 6500K High Power | eBay). Of course their performance will depend on the design of the H4 housing, so it would be good to try them in different housings.

As for DOT compliance, according to the NHTSA, based on a decision they made in 2005 under pressure from SEMA, it's okay to use a different light source than the original equipment "so long as the system meets the photometry and functionality requirements of the standard." Since these bulb's design mimics a halogen bulb with the LEDs in the correct location for proper light focus I don't see a problem with them. It's a Philips design meant to comply with regulations.

Source: SEMA Prevails on Motor Vehicle Lighting Rule; NHTSA Alters Interpretation on Enhanced Replacement Headlamp Systems | Business Wire
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Since these bulb's design mimics a halogen bulb with the LEDs in the correct location for proper light focus I don't see a problem with them. It's a Philips design meant to comply with regulations.
But the lumen output of the IPF bulbs (couldn't find info on the Trucklites) is close to double that of a standard H4 60/55W bulb.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 06:24 PM
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The original Philips H4 LED bulbs would be the ones to get if you're concerned about DOT requirements. They're rated at 1000 lumens for low beam. The output of the clones (IPFs and CN360s) are probably overstated though.
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Jus kNow that they are using a Philips LED chip and these are NOT made by Philips. Huge difference
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Jus kNow that they are using a Philips LED chip and these are NOT made by Philips. Huge difference
Huge difference concerning what? Did you read the reviews for the Philips and CN360 bulbs on the HiDplanet forum? The Philips bulbs (12953BWX2) are made by Philips. Obviously the clones are not, and it doesn't mean the clones are inferior products. The IPF bulbs cost more than the Philips. The only reason I posted the IPF videos is because they feature a Defender so I thought that was fun. The point of this thread is to showcase advances in H4 LED bulb technology and this new Philips design is the first appropriate LED replacement for H4 halogen bulbs.
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So Andrew, these new H4 LED bulbs are a drop in replacement?

I guess I'm a purist, I just like the look of the old headlights and I dont care for the esthetics of these LED headlight housings.

These bulbs could be a game changer.


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