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Old January 5th, 2004, 05:56 PM
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Beautiful truck but no sure if I want to take one 4 wheelin.
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Old January 5th, 2004, 06:02 PM
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Wow! Aesthetically, it's definitely cool. Aimed right at the H-2, huh?

I'll get in line for my Snoop Dogg Edition--leather seats and 24-inch rims.
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Old January 5th, 2004, 06:18 PM
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"Bronco/Hummer" or would that be a "Brummer"?
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Old January 5th, 2004, 11:06 PM
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Old January 5th, 2004, 11:12 PM
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Old January 6th, 2004, 03:12 PM
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Wow, I am really surprised you guys didn't see what it really is. That Bronco owes absolutely NOTHING to the H-2, it's got a long lineage all it's own! Cosmetically it's based totally on the original 66-77 Bronco's.

When I first saw the pictures, I was ready to run down to Ford and beg my way onto a waiting list... I was a rabid early bronco owner, and still get upset when I think about the day that truck got sold.

But then I looked into it further. If it comes to the US, it will be based on the Brazilian Ford Ecostar. Bad news. Biggest engine is a 2.0L 4cyl. That thing is looking more and more like competiton for the Honda CRV and Toyota Rav-4, which is not what I want. I was hoping for a powerful little competitor to the Wrangler.

One can only hope.

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Old January 6th, 2004, 04:30 PM
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I don't think ford is stupid enough to sell that truck with a 4 cyl. If it does get sold here, it will be "americanized" I would think, with a 4.6L V8, or at the very least, the 4.0 V6. My wife has already told me that she wants one if they make it to production. I have to agree that it looks nothing like the ugly-a** H2's, def. like the early Bronco's.
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Old January 6th, 2004, 06:00 PM
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No, I immediately saw it for what it was. There are many stylistic nods to the old Bronco (which I love as well)...but they're just that...styling pieces. They've done the same thing with the T-Bird and the Mustang...throw in a few 68-69 pieces, and we're supposed to be nostalgic about those great cars from the past--and apply it to this new thing they're offering. And they all look cool--definitely.

But, in reality, aside from those things, it's as much a derivative of the H2's success as anything else. If that didn't have HUGE sales, we'd never see a Bronco concept.

I hope they do it. If they make it pretty close to as-is, I'd consider one. (Or the Land Rover alternative!)
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Old January 6th, 2004, 06:01 PM
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I'm not too sure that ford wouldn't do it. The Ecostar is supposedly a good seller in Brazil and Mexico.

I did mail out a letter to ford today basically telling them if it's a 4cylinder, then I'll just buy from somebody else. Given the similarites between the D-90 and Early Broncos, I also suggested maybe re-body the Defender and call it a Bronco. Not the optimum solution, but i'd take it.


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Old January 6th, 2004, 06:10 PM
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The news release from FORD

"2.0-liter intercooled turbo diesel with an efficient six-speed PowerShift"

"Using the latest common-rail fuel-injection technology, the 128 horsepower (130 PS) engine delivers peak torque of 244 lb-ft (330 Nm) at a relatively low 1,800 rpm an ideal quality for off-roading or urban driving.Plus, Ford has engineered the engine technology to deliver overboost that provides an extra surge of power on driver demand for situations such as hill climbing. Overboost generates an even higher torque of 258 lb-ft (350 Nm) for a limited time under full throttle."

95" wheelbase
33" tires.
3100 lbs.

Looking very D90 replacementish....
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Old January 6th, 2004, 06:43 PM
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OMG - manual window controls.
I'd say definitely Early Bronco looks. Will be interesting to see what they do with it - and hopefully it goes up against the Wrangler and not CRV.
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Old January 6th, 2004, 07:22 PM
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Those numbers don't look too bad actually for engine performance, and can hopefully be bumped up a bit. Did you have a link for the press release?

I'd have to say I like the idea of factory 33's also, if it goes into production.

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Old January 6th, 2004, 08:01 PM
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There is a link in my post above with more details.

Here is from Ford direct: Ford PR
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now thats more and more appealing
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Old January 6th, 2004, 11:19 PM
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Ok, that does make me feel better. Though I would prefer a fully removable top and a real roll-cage rather than "roll bar accents".
Full time computer controlled 4wd is another plus for me too, hopefully it has a center diff lock in it.

I love the one quote "It's like a claw hammer in a box full of plastic deparment store tools"

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Old January 6th, 2004, 11:30 PM
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computer controlled 4wd why?
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Old January 6th, 2004, 11:40 PM
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Whoops, let me rephrase that.

I'm not quite a fan of computer contolled 4wd, but it is better than what I originally thought it would have. Though if it's something similar to what I am guessing the transfer case will most likely act like a self-balancing limited slip normally, but can also be fully locked when needed.

It's still a new system, so I'll need to research it more to find out exactly what it is. Hmmm, I wonder if James Duff will make accessories for it?

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Old January 6th, 2004, 11:45 PM
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Ok so how can it be full time 4 wheel drive if it is front wheel untill the computer senses slip and sends power to the rear?
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"deliver overboost that provides an extra surge of power on driver demand"
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