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Old February 25th, 2013, 12:48 PM
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There was a good article on the BBC about diesels in the US. Apparently we are where the UK was about 20 or so years ago in terms of diesel. I'll have to look for the article when I get home and can use a computer not an iPad.
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There was a good article on the BBC about diesels in the US. Apparently we are where the UK was about 20 or so years ago in terms of diesel. I'll have to look for the article when I get home and can use a computer not an iPad.
People need to drive a modern diesel to realize they have the low down grunt of a big gas engine and a great driving experience. Add that to the fuel economy of a hybrid at a much lower build and maintenance cost ... What's not to love?
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There was a good article on the BBC about diesels in the US. Apparently we are where the UK was about 20 or so years ago in terms of diesel. I'll have to look for the article when I get home and can use a computer not an iPad.
Yeah I saw an old top gear episode from that era and it implied gas vehicles were far more popular than diesels.
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http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130...ot-buy-diesels
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In some ways, especially emissions we are decades further forward than the UK was in the 1980s. Back then London Taxi's were doing their best t imitate GM V8 diesels slow smelly black clouds of no power.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 02:51 PM
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In some ways, especially emissions we are decades further forward than the UK was in the 1980s. Back then London Taxi's were doing their best t imitate GM V8 diesels slow smelly black clouds of no power.
That is not really true. The biggest different in emissions standards are more restrictive NOX regs in the USA. These are the main reason we do not see many diesels here. The values are also based from bad science and have been shown to not be required.

Up here in Canada, the sales of diesels on models that have them is very high.
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That's quite educational thanks...

As much as I find the big diesels exciting, they are heavy and complex. I would love to see a Mercedes OM660 swap, which has 3 cylinders.

It doesn't have a lot of power, but it should be enough to propel a Series or a D90. It weighs so little and is so small that it would favor a swap.
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That's quite educational thanks...

As much as I find the big diesels exciting, they are heavy and complex. I would love to see a Mercedes OM660 swap, which has 3 cylinders.

It doesn't have a lot of power, but it should be enough to propel a Series or a D90. It weighs so little and is so small that it would favor a swap.
The AHI diesel and earlier VW diesels are very popular swaps.

There is no reason an AHI would not be a great engine in a 90.
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The AHI diesel and earlier VW diesels are very popular swaps.

There is no reason an AHI would not be a great engine in a 90.
Other than someone needs to design a waterproof timing cover.
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Other than someone needs to design a waterproof timing cover.
Do the earlier ones have waterproof timing covers? Extreme4x4 has their vw diesel powered suzuki.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 03:54 PM
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No, you can see right inside.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan and have owned a few of them. Reliability is not great especially when you add a bunch of power.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 03:59 PM
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You do not mean this, do you? http://www.rocky-road.com/samurai-diesel.html

No way anybody would be happy with a 1.6.... The 1.9 TDIs are pushing it for a heavy pig. You might as well use a Rover 2.5 NA. Same power.
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That's quite educational thanks...

As much as I find the big diesels exciting, they are heavy and complex. I would love to see a Mercedes OM660 swap, which has 3 cylinders.

It doesn't have a lot of power, but it should be enough to propel a Series or a D90. It weighs so little and is so small that it would favor a swap.
A great engine for the DC100 rather than Defender.
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Not for nothing but that article failed to go into any type of useful detail.

I get if they lowered NOx emissions it would be easier and cheaper to sell diesels in the US. But we can kiss that goodbye. I don't ever recall a step back on emissions controls at the federal level
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On the positive side, Euro6 regs drop NOX to the point most Euro cars will need urea. Once everything is Euro6, it will be easier to bring things hear as it is much closer to CARB.

NOX
Euro5 = 0.18 g/km (2009)
Euro6 = 0.08 g/km (2014)
CARB LEVII = 0.044 g/km (Phased in to 2010)
CARB's next phasing is complicated as it combine NOX with NMOG.
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