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Old February 26th, 2016, 10:43 PM
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I am new to this forum so please forgive my posting if it seems redundant and / or ignorant.
I have been stung by the Defender bug. For the last two months I have been obsessing over needing to have a Defender. I have been driving a Mini Van for far too long. I have so many questions to ask, j don't know where to start. First, am I crazy for this obsession? Second, why do I love them so much? Third, any particular favorites 1991 or earlier? Is it worth it for to attemp to buy one from over seas? Any country better than others to check out. I found an Italuan Defender site that has loads of them. A lot for under 10k. What are my obstacles other than communication barrier? Please, if some one can help guide me through this process, I'd be very appreciative. Ideally, I'd purchase a rust free 86 to 91, D90 or 110, . Under 10g would be ideal. Not particular about the engine because I plan on modifying. Just need a way to get it shipped from Italy or wherever to Seattle. Help!

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Old February 26th, 2016, 10:59 PM
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Welcome, sorry you are bitten. You will never be the same.
Start with reading these forums. Learn as much as you can. Some of the people here are the most knowledgeable Rover people that you will find. Use the search button to research. I don't think first time owners should try to import by themselves. There are others, but Uncle Doug has a great reputation on imports.
Don't have thin skin, some people here are a little hard on newbies.
Again, welcome and good hunting.

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Old February 26th, 2016, 11:08 PM
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Hi welcome to the forum! Go visit these guys; https://shop.defendersnorthwest.com/main.sc
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Old February 26th, 2016, 11:59 PM
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Hey, welcome.

You are actually in a fairly good part of the country to be able to find a Defender that is good quality and legal.

First, make sure you get a legal one. You noted 1991, so I assume you get the basics. But mostly, get one that is ORIGINAL.

1.5 years ago, I got mine from BC, just across the border. I had absolutely no issues bringing it in, but getting it registered was a bit of a hassle due to DEQ issues in the Portland area. Mine has records back to 1991, and it was pretty much 100% original.

For a 110, look to spend at least $20k for one that is not junk. You can find quite a few of the MoD two-door 110's for quite a bit less, and in good kit, but the 4 doors are nice to have. Usually a few thousand less for a 90.

Don't bother with importing on your own. Get one of the pros on this board to do it for you, or to at least find one for you and help in the process. Coming from Canada, BC area, no problem, you do it yourself as long as it checks out.

Rust, rust, rust. Look very carefully at the bulkhead and frame. Knock on it, use a magnet, look under the carpet. I pulled the bulkhead off mine, and was surprised at how much rust there actually was, even though I looked and knew it was there, it was 3x more than I knew before it was opened up to see for sure.

As with all the Rovers I've owned, I kind of have this sense about whether the vehicle has been abused or not. Simple things about the wear on the steering wheel, the gear shift, the seats, the headliner, tell a story about how it has been cared for.

You can find trucks for $10k or so, but they will be projects. You should not assume you can drive it reliably, or even while you are doing the work on it, because it will be extensive. But maybe that is what you want!
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:26 AM
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Don't buy a Santana. Do be reasonably sure that your intended swap will be registerable/renewable & insurable (not that certainty is really even possible). I'd keep saving until I could afford a serviceable LHD in a motor scenario as close as possible to what I want to swap to. $10K for serviceable not terribly likely.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:28 AM
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Hey, welcome.

You are actually in a fairly good part of the country to be able to find a Defender that is good quality and legal.

First, make sure you get a legal one. You noted 1991, so I assume you get the basics. But mostly, get one that is ORIGINAL.

1.5 years ago, I got mine from BC, just across the border. I had absolutely no issues bringing it in, but getting it registered was a bit of a hassle due to DEQ issues in the Portland area. Mine has records back to 1991, and it was pretty much 100% original.

For a 110, look to spend at least $20k for one that is not junk. You can find quite a few of the MoD two-door 110's for quite a bit less, and in good kit, but the 4 doors are nice to have. Usually a few thousand less for a 90.

Don't bother with importing on your own. Get one of the pros on this board to do it for you, or to at least find one for you and help in the process. Coming from Canada, BC area, no problem, you do it yourself as long as it checks out.

Rust, rust, rust. Look very carefully at the bulkhead and frame. Knock on it, use a magnet, look under the carpet. I pulled the bulkhead off mine, and was surprised at how much rust there actually was, even though I looked and knew it was there, it was 3x more than I knew before it was opened up to see for sure.

As with all the Rovers I've owned, I kind of have this sense about whether the vehicle has been abused or not. Simple things about the wear on the steering wheel, the gear shift, the seats, the headliner, tell a story about how it has been cared for.

You can find trucks for $10k or so, but they will be projects. You should not assume you can drive it reliably, or even while you are doing the work on it, because it will be extensive. But maybe that is what you want!
Thank you for this wealth of advice.
I'm so glad I found this forum.
My wife appreciates that I'm addicted to Defenders and not porn.
I'd love to find out more.
Are there any good BC or Vancouver defender sales sites?
What type of 90 would 20k get me?

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What type of D90 would 20k get me in Canada?
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:40 AM
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coming from Canada, BC area, no problem, you do it yourself as long as it checks out.
Hmmm, if you've got details for the diy import process from BC, please post it in that sticky atop the Vehicles For Sale section?
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:11 AM
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Yes, I would love details��
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:23 AM
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So are you saying that it IS ok to buy a newer defender in BC and or does it still have to be at least 25 yrs old?

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Sorry! Of course it has to be 25 yrs old.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 01:29 AM
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I rarely see BC trucks, that are U.S. importable, last very long on the market.

Other than that sweet 1984 130, the oldest truck near your price range, that I know of currently available, is a '95.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 03:11 AM
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What if my budget was 30k? how nice of a defender can I expect to get?
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Old February 27th, 2016, 03:28 AM
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What if my budget was 30k? how nice of a defender can I expect to get?
If you are PATIENT, $25k-$30k should score you a nice, serviceable 5-door LHD that you'll love driving around Seattle from day 1, maybe even including some nice upgrades like new paint. There's also a lot of complete turds with $30k price tags on them.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 04:16 AM
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By patient do you mean making sure to leave no stone uncovered? Where should I be searching to find what I want?
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Old February 27th, 2016, 04:17 AM
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Thank you for this wealth of advice. I'm so glad I found this forum. My wife appreciates that I'm addicted to Defenders and not porn.
She perhaps doesn't realize that a Defender is a mistress.

It's far better to take your time to find out whether a 90 or 110 meets your needs. It's far better to go meet up with lots of the local Rover folk and learn from them. Refine your desires so you make a smart first purchase.

There are too many who buy the first truck they see and then discover how badly they screwed up by buying a POS.
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She perhaps doesn't realize that a Defender is a mistress.
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She perhaps doesn't realize that a Defender is a mistress....
ha...my wife refers to our 110 as my girlfriend
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Old February 28th, 2016, 02:27 AM
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If you are PATIENT, $25k-$30k should score you a nice, serviceable 5-door LHD that you'll love driving around Seattle from day 1, maybe even including some nice upgrades like new paint. There's also a lot of complete turds with $30k price tags on them.
True. You can spend a lot on a turd.

I was sub $20k. I picked it up summer 2014. I drove it for a year with hardly any issues at all, and I could still be driving it as is, but for the good deal I found on a 300tdi engine last year. ....so many paths suddenly opened up!

So you can find them if you are willing to wait. See Brian at Defenders Northwest. Look at Craigslist, look at Kijiji, and autotrader. Contact Righteous Trading Company. He may be looking for an import right now.

There are several on this board who import as well.
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Old February 28th, 2016, 07:42 AM
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What if my budget was 30k? how nice of a defender can I expect to get?
I have some nice 110's for around $ 25- $ 27 and some very good 90's starting at $ 18. All LHD.
PM me if you are interested.
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Old February 28th, 2016, 09:51 AM
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Just a friendly note to tell you that your addiction is going to become a lot more pronounced before it gets better.
All Best with your quest.
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Old February 28th, 2016, 10:36 AM
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If you are going to bring one in from overseas contact Doug (Uncle Douglas) ay Dividing Creek Imports he did my import and will take excellent care of you as well. Good luck in your search, it's half the fun.
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