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Old January 31st, 2014, 10:24 AM
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Hi All,

Need advice on replacing a vehicle for my wife. Iíll list the characteristics that weíre looking for, knowing full well that itís next to impossible to have all of these things:

AWD/4WD SUV
Manual Transmission
Diesel
Relatively new (<5yrs old)
MPGís > 25
Plush Comfort

Years ago we had a series 1 disco with a stick shift (and V-8). We loved it and it lasted for a decade until it was in a minor accident and the tranny was giving up, so we sold it for parts. Then she got a 2004 disco (auto), but it didnít have the same character and we sold it. Then she got a P38 Rangie that she liked, except she hated the fuel mileage. A few years back we switched everything to diesel (90w/300tdi, Powerstroke Pick-up, Jetta tdi) and so she sold the Rangie and got a Beetle tdi.

Well, she has now admitted the realization that she needs (wants) to replace the beetle with an AWD SUV. She loves the 90, but she runs errands throughout the day pretty much every day and it doesnít have the comfort that she wants (especially in the winter). She likes the idea of a Touareg, but they have an auto box and fuel mileage would only be Ďokayí. She loves the idea of a G Wagon, but they are auto and poor fuel mileage. Both of those are also pricey.

I might have a chance at a clean í95 disco with a stick shift with a questionable engine. Iíve encouraged her to get that and put a 200/300tdi in that. She doesnít like the idea that it would be that old. And also that it would take a while to put the engine in (Iíd plan to do it myself). There is also consideration for an older G Wagon and possibly import one (we imported the 90 ourselves), but again she doesnít like the age factor.

So, am I overlooking anything? Iíd like to get her something that she will really love and enjoy driving. But all of those desires in one vehicle seems not to exist.

Thanks, Keith
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Old January 31st, 2014, 10:54 AM
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:02 AM
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Why diesel? Simply for the fuel mileage?

Why stickshift? Is that something you added to the list or is that actually something that your wife wants?

I'd recommend a new Honda Pilot AWD, forget the stickshift.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:10 AM
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Why diesel? Simply for the fuel mileage?

Why stickshift? Is that something you added to the list or is that actually something that your wife wants?

I'd recommend a new Honda Pilot AWD, forget the stickshift.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:13 AM
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Old January 31st, 2014, 11:43 AM
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If price is an issue, then maintenance and fuel costs should be as well I would imagine.

Unless you have $XX amount set aside for maintenance after purchase of a traditionally higher cost of ownership vehicle as you guys have historically owned, a Japanese SUV sounds like your baby.

Or, last gen T-Reg TDi (V6, not V10), used Q7 TDi if you have budgeted $ for repairs and maintenance.
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Yes, must be stick shift. We both prefer it. When we bought the '04 disco, we did not enjoy driving the car for that reason (it was our first auto). Similar for the Rangie. Diesel cause we have three other cars that are diesel and tractors that are diesel.

Maintenance doesn't bother me. I'm willing to accept maintenance and its cost in exchange for something that is enjoyable to her.

Guess maybe we need to figure out a priority on what's required since it is doubtful all can be achieved.

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Old January 31st, 2014, 12:07 PM
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It's going to be difficult to find something that is less than 5 years old with plush comfort AND a manual transmission in the US.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 12:31 PM
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Diesel, and a stick. Hmm.

This is near you and something every Rover owner would Luuuuuv to have on hand:
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4312813618.html
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Old January 31st, 2014, 12:46 PM
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Diesel + stick + <5 years old SUV + USA is not possible.....
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Old January 31st, 2014, 12:59 PM
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That's a hard combination (which kills me... why do so few people in the States want diesel/manual/AWD???). It's too bad they don't make the diesel Jeep Liberties anymore.

http://www.autonationsubaruwest.com/...5aa74ba064.htm

I don't even know if it's possible to buy one of the new Jeep Grand Cherokees, diesel, with a manual transmission. Although, I think the Wrangler will be coming out next year offering a diesel. Certainly, a Wrangler could be purchased with a manual.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:18 PM
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Unobtanium. Quite simply, impossible to be had.

I love VW/ Audi products but I would not recommend one outside of the warranty period. You can find the Grand Cherokee, Touareg, and Q7 in diesel but that is it for SUV.

You could, however, find a Ram, F series or Silverado in diesel and manual. And yes, new pickups can be as plush as you could possibly demand them to be.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:23 PM
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The Ram 1500 actually comes in a v6 diesel this year. Not sure if manual is an option or not.
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I have a 3/4 ton Powerstroke + car dolly which works when needed :-) Pulled a 109 home from Toronto once :-)

Believe I sold you a couple parts from said truck ...


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Diesel, and a stick. Hmm.

This is near you and something every Rover owner would Luuuuuv to have on hand:
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4312813618.html
------ Follow up post added January 31st, 2014 01:25 PM ------

I'll have to check to see what kind of deal I can get on one of these ...

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Old February 1st, 2014, 05:22 PM
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You seem to know your vehicles. So other than being friendly, why ask for opinions on a search for a unicorn?

I do things that bogles the mind on a daily basis, but if fuel costs are that big of issue, then you should not be looking for any of the vehicles mentioned in this thread other than the Japanese car based ones IMO.
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✓ AWD/4WD SUV
✓ Manual Transmission
✘ Diesel
✓ Relatively new (<5yrs old)
✓ MPG’s > 25
✓ Plush Comfort (kind of)


http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...sting=75452711
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You need to move somewhere where diesel SUV with stick shifts are allowed to exist.

That said, I did see an old Isuzu 2dr trooper with a diesel and stick shift at Copley Motor cars the other day. They exist, but are very nearly impossible to find. And that vehicle wasn't much plushier than a Defender.

Give up the auto and she'll get choices MB/Audi/BMW etc
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